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An invitation for the pianists of WTF

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  • RontunerR Rontuner

    Looks like a piece even I could learn...

    I've played the prelude in C from WTC my whole tuning career - well enough apparently for clients to ask if I play anywhere? That and a few snippets from other pieces are my "check the tuning" at the end of an appointment. When asked, I joke that "you've heard everything I know!" While I have plenty of musical training in bassoon and voice, my piano skills are limited.

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    ShiroKuro
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    @Rontuner I just finished practicing it. It’s super easy. You should try it! It’s quite melancholy though.

    @chas you could whip up a recording and submit before you go on vacay? 😅

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      AndyD
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      This one ?

      20260525_131143.jpg

      Ventosa viri restabit

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        This one ?

        20260525_131143.jpg

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        ShiroKuro
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        @AndyD yes! That’s the harder one. It’s lovely, do you play it?

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          Nope, just printed the pdf. Could you recommend/link your favourite YouTube version for me to listen?
          Off to find some sellotape...

          Ventosa viri restabit

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            ShiroKuro
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            @andyd I don’t have a favorite version, but the two videos linked above are where I started. I’m going to play the easier version just because I don’t want to spend too much time on it. I think the harder version would be doable for me, but I have a whole list of other pieces I’m trying to finish as well.

            Also, the easier version is quite sweet and I think it’s a fine piece on its own. But I’d love to hear you play the Liszt version!

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              AndyD
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              #9

              No sellotape but I like the softer toned pianos and slightly faster tempo

              Link to video

              Link to video

              Dont like the last arpeggio being differently major when it is left effectively minor by Chopin? But who am I to doubt either of the masters.

              Sellotape...

              Ventosa viri restabit

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              • A AndyD

                No sellotape but I like the softer toned pianos and slightly faster tempo

                Link to video

                Link to video

                Dont like the last arpeggio being differently major when it is left effectively minor by Chopin? But who am I to doubt either of the masters.

                Sellotape...

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                ShiroKuro
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                @AndyD oooh I like the Hough version best. By far!

                Thanks for posting those, it’s fun to compare!

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                  It's been a fortnight and I've had a week away, just wondered who's practicing this?
                  I've run through it a dozen, maybe 15 times now, so it's coming along nicely.
                  First two pages learned, third page I'm still making mistakes.
                  That last chord involves shifting the torso left.

                  Ventosa viri restabit

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                    AdagioM
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                    I’ve played that first version before, a long time ago. I haven’t really played the piano in a decade, maybe?

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                      It's been a fortnight and I've had a week away, just wondered who's practicing this?
                      I've run through it a dozen, maybe 15 times now, so it's coming along nicely.
                      First two pages learned, third page I'm still making mistakes.
                      That last chord involves shifting the torso left.

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                      ShiroKuro
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                      #13

                      @AndyD I'm glad to hear yours is coming along!

                      I have been half-heartedly playing the easier version, I plan to record it by the Piano Tell deadline (July 15 I think) and since that's a ways out yet, I've been focusing on other goals.

                      I don't know if anyone else here is playing it, but several people are working on it at Piano Tell.

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                      • AdagioMA AdagioM

                        I’ve played that first version before, a long time ago. I haven’t really played the piano in a decade, maybe?

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                        @AdagioM said:

                        I haven’t really played the piano in a decade, maybe?

                        I guess I didn't know that! Do you still have your piano at home?

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                          Got a copy of Chopin's Wiosna. Started it, only to learn that I am worse than ever. Have not played in too many years and not getting any younger, but I am enjoying it. Bob isn't. 🙂
                          I don't like it very much. Will see.

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                            Got a copy of Chopin's Wiosna. Started it, only to learn that I am worse than ever. Have not played in too many years and not getting any younger, but I am enjoying it. Bob isn't. 🙂
                            I don't like it very much. Will see.

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                            ShiroKuro
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                            @CHAS said:
                            I don't like it very much. Will see.

                            The funny thing is, a lot of pianists at PT don’t rally like it either. I’m kind of blah about it myself 😅

                            But nevertheless I plan to polish it (mostly) and upload a recording next month.

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                              AndyD
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                              You don't have to like it, just play it better than Ax & Jon
                              😘

                              Ventosa viri restabit

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                              🤣 😊
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                                Bernard
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                                I've taken a quick look at this piece. To me, the big challenge is it's repetitiveness, but the deeper one digs, the more one finds. Isn't that always the case?

                                Chopin ends a number of his minor pieces with a major chord. In the case of Wiosna, it can be understood by reading the lyrics of the song (if you can find a decent translation!).

                                The lyrics from LeiderNet (translated far better than my browser's translate function which made a mish-mash of it):

                                Droplets of dew sparkle,
                                A spring whispers in the open field;
                                Hidden in heather,
                                Somewhere a heifer's bell rings.

                                Pretty gentle open field
                                Picture views form happily,
                                All around, flowers release fragrance,
                                And bushes bloom.

                                Graze and wander, my little herd,
                                I sit by a rock,
                                A sweet song that I like
                                I'll sing for myself.

                                A pleasant quiet abandonded place!
                                Yet some regrets wander in my mind,
                                my heart mourns,
                                and a tear forms in my eye.

                                The tear escapes my eye,
                                Within me sings a stream,
                                To me from above,
                                A skylark responds.

                                His wings he spreads,
                                Barely visible to the eye,
                                Higher, higer...
                                Lost already among the clouds.

                                Above prairies and fields he flies,
                                Still singing his song;
                                And the song from the ground
                                He takes up into the sky!

                                The industrial revolution cheapened everything.

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                                  You don't have to like it, just play it better than Ax & Jon
                                  😘

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                                  ShiroKuro
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                                  @AndyD said:
                                  You don't have to like it, just play it better than Ax & Jon

                                  Not likely!! 😂

                                  @Bernard that’s lovely, thank you for posting it!

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                                    AndyD
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                                    Do people usually play it straight?
                                    Hough effectively ignores 'a tempo', sings out a nice counter in bars 15 to 32.
                                    And then his final 8 bars, love his interpretation...

                                    20260607_192541.jpg

                                    Ventosa viri restabit

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                                      Do people usually play it straight?
                                      Hough effectively ignores 'a tempo', sings out a nice counter in bars 15 to 32.
                                      And then his final 8 bars, love his interpretation...

                                      20260607_192541.jpg

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                                      Bernard
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                                      @AndyD said:

                                      Do people usually play it straight?

                                      What do you mean by this?

                                      PS, I've stopped listening to interpretations temporarily.

                                      The industrial revolution cheapened everything.

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                                        @AndyD said:

                                        Do people usually play it straight?

                                        What do you mean by this?

                                        PS, I've stopped listening to interpretations temporarily.

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                                        @Bernard said:
                                        Do people usually play it straight?

                                        What do you mean by this?

                                        Pretty much as written and therefore all pretty much the same. I imagine like the first YouTube video I linked.

                                        Ventosa viri restabit

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                                        • ShiroKuroS ShiroKuro

                                          @AdagioM said:

                                          I haven’t really played the piano in a decade, maybe?

                                          I guess I didn't know that! Do you still have your piano at home?

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                                          @ShiroKuro Yes, I still have my Weinbach grand at home, and still love it. I use it for choir practice, finding my notes. And occasionally try to play it. It also makes a perfect black/white balanced background for photographing yarn. Ha!

                                          I sold my digital piano several years ago. Roland FP something or other. I like the way sound runs through me from my acoustic piano way better.

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