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    Bernard
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    Everything she says applies to the US as well.

    Eric Schmidt, former head of Google, has said, “We don’t need you to type at all. We know where you are. We know where you’ve been. We can more or less know what you’re thinking about.”

    I can't help but think of William Saffire's rants and raves over the protection of our privacy. He must be turning in his grave.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/sep/10/tech-companies-are-stealing-our-books-music-and-films-for-ai-its-brazen-theft-and-must-be-stopped

    The industrial revolution cheapened everything.

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      I looked at this topic title and wondered, "what is Big Al" plundering? 🙂

      Crazy economist who likes to write about higher education.

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        If only we have chosen a serif font.

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        • Piano*DadP Piano*Dad

          I looked at this topic title and wondered, "what is Big Al" plundering? 🙂

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          @Piano-Dad said in Stop AI plundering:

          I looked at this topic title and wondered, "what is Big Al" plundering? 🙂

          😊

          Big Al

          Money seems to buy the most happiness when you give it away.

          Why does everything have to be so complicated, all in the name of convenience. -ShiroKuro

          A lifetime of experience will change a person. If it doesn't, then you're already dead inside. -MarkJ

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            In the scheme of global harms committed by the tech bros – the undermining of democracies, the decimation of privacy, the open gauntlet to scams and abuse – stealing one Australian author’s life’s work and ruining their livelihood is a peccadillo.

            How does it ruin an author’s livelihood? It’s not like AI will read to the book to me if I ask it. If I want to buy a book, I’ll buy a book. That AI read it already doesn’t, and can’t, figure into that decision.

            What am I missing?

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              In the scheme of global harms committed by the tech bros – the undermining of democracies, the decimation of privacy, the open gauntlet to scams and abuse – stealing one Australian author’s life’s work and ruining their livelihood is a peccadillo.

              How does it ruin an author’s livelihood? It’s not like AI will read to the book to me if I ask it. If I want to buy a book, I’ll buy a book. That AI read it already doesn’t, and can’t, figure into that decision.

              What am I missing?

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              @jon-nyc said in Stop AI plundering:

              What am I missing?

              AI never asked for permission to use the creator's work in the manner in which it is being used, and the author is not being credited for the work they did, the latter being more relevant to livelihood. Attributions lead readers to the source, the source gains every time a reader, based on the quotes they've read, decide to buy the work(s).

              The industrial revolution cheapened everything.

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                I still don’t see how it’s ’taking away’ their livelihood. True they could pay them for the novel use they put their works to, but the way the authors got paid before AI existed seems unchanged to me.

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                  If only we have chosen a serif font.

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                  @Axtremus said in Stop AI plundering:

                  If only we have chosen a serif font.

                  I say this to myself all the time. 😄

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                    I still don’t see how it’s ’taking away’ their livelihood. True they could pay them for the novel use they put their works to, but the way the authors got paid before AI existed seems unchanged to me.

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                    @jon-nyc Well yeah, the way they got paid before AI hasn't changed. But they get paid royalties when someone uses their work in any substantial way. AI's thieving "masterminds" aren't paying royalites for millions of copyrighted words. They're stealing them.

                    The industrial revolution cheapened everything.

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