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  • wtgW wtg

    Stable Genius ™. 5D chess.

    Or an unmitigated disaster.

    Among those Trump has targeted with new tariffs: Lesotho, the tiny landlocked country that was slapped with a 50 percent tariff rate — the highest rate, shared also by the French territory of St. Pierre and Miquelon — and only has a trade imbalance with the U.S. because of a law that allows sub-Saharan African countries to ship thousands of goods duty-free; an overseas territory whose only inhabitants are workers at a military base operated jointly by U.K. and U.S. forces; and the Heard and McDonald Islands, home to no human, and mostly penguin, residents.

    The tariffs could be devastating for some of those small countries. Lesotho has one of the highest rates of HIV in the world and the clothing factories the tariffs target are a key source of access to HIV medicines in the country.

    “This could have really tragic implications for that country,” Gresser said.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/03/i-hope-hes-right-markets-tumble-on-tariffs-but-trump-isnt-flinching-00269800

    The Republicans in Congress could stop this disaster if they could just grow a pair...

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    @wtg said in Tariffs:

    The Republicans in Congress could stop this disaster if they could just grow a pair...

    Indeed. Can their constituents convince them?

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      Stable Genius ® plays 5D chess.

      https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/03/i-hope-hes-right-markets-tumble-on-tariffs-but-trump-isnt-flinching-00269800

      When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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        His University of Pennsylvania degree was bought and paid for.

        I'm shocked.

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          There are good economists in the Council of Economic Advisers who likely helped invent this "formula." People like Kim Ruhl. He is a trade economist. I suspect his credibility is shredded for all time coming. For a few pieces of silver he ...

          Back in the day, the CEA's role was to represent the economics profession and to tell truth to power. I know many people who have served well in that role over the years. Those days are in the rear view mirror.

          Crazy economist who likes to write about higher education.

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            His son of a slumlord son-in-law got into Harvard the same way.

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              There are good economists in the Council of Economic Advisers who likely helped invent this "formula." People like Kim Ruhl. He is a trade economist. I suspect his credibility is shredded for all time coming. For a few pieces of silver he ...

              Back in the day, the CEA's role was to represent the economics profession and to tell truth to power. I know many people who have served well in that role over the years. Those days are in the rear view mirror.

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              Steve Miller
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              @Piano-Dad

              I think you may be giving these guys too much credit.

              Saw an article where a guy asked 3 different AI things the best way to calculate a fair tariff. All three came up with the formula they ended up using. I don’t do AI - would someone like to test this? My guess the formula was generated by some snot nosed kid who then drove back to his mother’s basement in a WankPanzer to spend the rest of the night whining on line about how he can’t get a date.

              No? Ask AI things to name every country in the world and you get the exact list of countries affected by the tariffs.

              Including uninhabited islands.

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                The good news about Trump’s tariffs. Jonathan Chait writing for the Atlantic.

                Authoritarian leaders are most dangerous when they’re popular. Wrecking the economy is unlikely to broaden Trump’s support..

                https://archive.is/lz6wM

                When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                  Trump White House cited economists for its tariff formula. They pan it.

                  Economists say the administration’s formula fails to take into account whether conditions change.

                  https://archive.is/7Jgyn

                  When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                    wtg
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                    Add the Falkland Islands to the list of "what the hell?"

                    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5ygx81gpg6o

                    When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                      Barstool Sports founder Dave Portnoy blasted President Donald Trump over his sweeping tariffs that have sent the stock market into chaos this past week.

                      Portnoy, a supporter of Trump, said that he is “down” $7 million across the stock market and cryptocurrency as Trump’s tariffs continue to wreak havoc on the economy. Trump announced a 10% tariff on all imports into the U.S. earlier this week despite economists’ warnings that it could send the country into a recession.

                      Portnoy said that he does not understand the point of the tariffs.

                      “I’m down 7 million bucks in stocks and crypto, and it’s tariff city. Trump has put his tariffs all over the place. I’ve been trying to understand them. I don’t. Like it’s more a trade deficit tariff. To me, like, hey, we get this much sh-t from you, and you get this much from us. Let’s even that up. Let’s get some wacky formula, do tariffs. And everything’s in the sh-tter because of it,” he said in a video that is circulating on social media.

                      https://www.nj.com/politics/2025/04/maga-celebrity-trump-has-everything-in-the-sh-tter-and-im-down-7-million-bucks.html

                      When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                      • wtgW wtg

                        The good news about Trump’s tariffs. Jonathan Chait writing for the Atlantic.

                        Authoritarian leaders are most dangerous when they’re popular. Wrecking the economy is unlikely to broaden Trump’s support..

                        https://archive.is/lz6wM

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                        @wtg said in Tariffs:

                        The good news about Trump’s tariffs. Jonathan Chait writing for the Atlantic.

                        Authoritarian leaders are most dangerous when they’re popular. Wrecking the economy is unlikely to broaden Trump’s support..

                        https://archive.is/lz6wM

                        Please let people see what’s happening and actually get angry in the right direction.
                        Please.

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                          Leopards, faces, etc.

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                          • wtgW wtg

                            Add the Falkland Islands to the list of "what the hell?"

                            https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5ygx81gpg6o

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                            @wtg said in Tariffs:

                            Add the Falkland Islands to the list of "what the hell?"

                            https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5ygx81gpg6o

                            Well I'm a tad miffed by this gross injustice and

                            Oh there's the national tea alarm. Off for a cuppa...

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                              There once was a penguin from Heard

                              Who was an industrious bird.

                              Her wares she did send

                              To America without end,

                              Till Trump said the dark tariff word.

                              Crazy economist who likes to write about higher education.

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                                Crazy economist who likes to write about higher education.

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                                  I hear Land-rover are stopping all shipments to the US. That's 100,000 cars, a quarter of their sales.
                                  Ouch.

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                                    The formula used by the Trump administration to levy reciprocal tariffs contains a serious math error that over-inflates the impact by about a factor of four, economists at the American Enterprise Institute said.

                                    Why it matters: The conservative think tank says the error led to tariff rates massively higher than they should have been to achieve the goals the administration sought.

                                    https://www.axios.com/2025/04/06/trump-tariffs-error-aei

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                                    • wtgW wtg

                                      The formula used by the Trump administration to levy reciprocal tariffs contains a serious math error that over-inflates the impact by about a factor of four, economists at the American Enterprise Institute said.

                                      Why it matters: The conservative think tank says the error led to tariff rates massively higher than they should have been to achieve the goals the administration sought.

                                      https://www.axios.com/2025/04/06/trump-tariffs-error-aei

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                                      @wtg said in Tariffs:

                                      The conservative think tank says the error led to tariff rates massively higher than they should have been to achieve the goals the administration sought.

                                      it's all so stupid.... and this administration will never admit to any mistakes, so we'll have to live with the consequences forever.

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                                      • wtgW wtg

                                        The formula used by the Trump administration to levy reciprocal tariffs contains a serious math error that over-inflates the impact by about a factor of four, economists at the American Enterprise Institute said.

                                        Why it matters: The conservative think tank says the error led to tariff rates massively higher than they should have been to achieve the goals the administration sought.

                                        https://www.axios.com/2025/04/06/trump-tariffs-error-aei

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                                        Why it matters: The conservative think tank says the error led to tariff rates massively higher than they should have been to achieve the goals the administration sought.

                                        Depends on what you think the goals are.

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                                          Why it matters: The conservative think tank says the error led to tariff rates massively higher than they should have been to achieve the goals the administration sought.

                                          Depends on what you think the goals are.

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                                          Piano*Dad
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                                          @Steve-Miller said in Tariffs:

                                          Why it matters: The conservative think tank says the error led to tariff rates massively higher than they should have been to achieve the goals the administration sought.

                                          Depends on what you think the goals are.

                                          Indeed. The administration wanted big numbers, so the formula was designed to give them big numbers.

                                          Crazy economist who likes to write about higher education.

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