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  • AxtremusA Axtremus

    @Rontuner said in Be careful what you say:

    I don't know anything about burner phones but wondered...
    If you use a sim card and swap it to another phone that only has what's needed for travel so the number stays the same, would that work?

    Two things to consider when it comes to moving SIM card from phone to phone in the context of international travel:

    1. Using an American SIM card (preserving the same American phone number) in a foreign country means paying international roaming charges. (Some cellphone plans are more economical than others when it comes to international roaming, you just have to do your research.)

    2. iPhone 14 and newer, a least those you can buy in the USA, just don't support the physical SIM anymore. There is not a discrete, physical SIM card that you can insert into or remove from the newer iPhones.

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    @Axtremus said in Be careful what you say:

    iPhone 14 and newer

    My current phone is an iPhone 12, so I guess it has a physical sim...

    re roaming, I was planning to pay for that anyway. We'll see, lots to figure out still.

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    • ShiroKuroS ShiroKuro

      @Rontuner yeah, I’m going to have to start learning about burner phones…. Because I feel like I really need to have access to my phone number while I’m away, but I think if you get a burner phone and then it has your regular phone number, it defeats the purpose right?

      @pique said in Be careful what you say:

      Man, SK, I'm sorry for the stress this must be causing you.

      Thank you.

      This is really tearing me up… Mr SK has made so many sacrifices over the years for me, to be here in the U.S. with me.

      If we can’t safely travel back and forth to Japan, without fear of detainment…. Especially when neither us are doing anything wrong…

      And the biggest problem I’m grappling with right now is timing, because now is the time to make airplane reservations for overseas summer travel. The longer you wait, the more expensive it gets, and seats start getting taken etc…. But I don’t have any clarity…. I don’t think anyone does.

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      @ShiroKuro said in Be careful what you say:

      @Rontuner yeah, I’m going to have to start learning about burner phones…. Because I feel like I really need to have access to my phone number while I’m away, but I think if you get a burner phone and then it has your regular phone number, it defeats the purpose right?

      @pique said in Be careful what you say:

      Man, SK, I'm sorry for the stress this must be causing you.

      Thank you.

      This is really tearing me up… Mr SK has made so many sacrifices over the years for me, to be here in the U.S. with me.

      If we can’t safely travel back and forth to Japan, without fear of detainment…. Especially when neither us are doing anything wrong…

      And the biggest problem I’m grappling with right now is timing, because now is the time to make airplane reservations for overseas summer travel. The longer you wait, the more expensive it gets, and seats start getting taken etc…. But I don’t have any clarity…. I don’t think anyone does.

      I was going to spend the winter overseas, got delayed because of a car accident, then Covid, then when things got super crazy here--including multiple plane accidents--I started stepping back from the idea. I'm sure it's not fair to Mr SK to not be able to go home for a while, but maybe you skip this plan for now... seems like it is that or go to Japan and stay there, which I know is not possible if you want to keep the new life you have built for yourselves. (And at least that means that if everything really does go totally to hell, you and Mr SK have an out.)

      fear is the thief of dreams

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        @ShiroKuro said in Be careful what you say:

        @Rontuner yeah, I’m going to have to start learning about burner phones…. Because I feel like I really need to have access to my phone number while I’m away, but I think if you get a burner phone and then it has your regular phone number, it defeats the purpose right?

        @pique said in Be careful what you say:

        Man, SK, I'm sorry for the stress this must be causing you.

        Thank you.

        This is really tearing me up… Mr SK has made so many sacrifices over the years for me, to be here in the U.S. with me.

        If we can’t safely travel back and forth to Japan, without fear of detainment…. Especially when neither us are doing anything wrong…

        And the biggest problem I’m grappling with right now is timing, because now is the time to make airplane reservations for overseas summer travel. The longer you wait, the more expensive it gets, and seats start getting taken etc…. But I don’t have any clarity…. I don’t think anyone does.

        I was going to spend the winter overseas, got delayed because of a car accident, then Covid, then when things got super crazy here--including multiple plane accidents--I started stepping back from the idea. I'm sure it's not fair to Mr SK to not be able to go home for a while, but maybe you skip this plan for now... seems like it is that or go to Japan and stay there, which I know is not possible if you want to keep the new life you have built for yourselves. (And at least that means that if everything really does go totally to hell, you and Mr SK have an out.)

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        @pique said in Be careful what you say:

        seems like it is that or go to Japan and stay there

        The problem is that it is not clear that this is what would happen.

        We could go to Japan, come back in two weeks and have zero issues getting back into the country. And that is as it should be, both of us have done nothing wrong, and he has legal permanent residence.

        The real problem is that there's no assurance that things actually play out as they should.

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          After what happened to the German national, who is a legal permanent resident, I would not chance leaving the country with the intention of returning. Not at this time.

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            After what happened to the German national, who is a legal permanent resident, I would not chance leaving the country with the intention of returning. Not at this time.

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            @Bernard Are you talking about this case?

            https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/german-national-green-card-holder-immigration-detention-fabian-schmidt-rcna196714

            https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/18/germany-investigates-after-national-with-green-card-arrested-at-us-border

            I hadn't heard about his case before, but reading it makes me feel sick to my stomach.

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            • Piano*DadP Piano*Dad

              I'm deleting nothing. Fuck 'em and fuck him.

              I'm giving an interview on CGTN IChinese media) Monday night on the administration's assault on the Department of Education.

              I just don't care. I will not bend the knee, kiss the ass, or offer up prior obedience.

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              @Piano-Dad said in Be careful what you say:

              I'm deleting nothing. Fuck 'em and fuck him.

              I'm giving an interview on CGTN IChinese media) Monday night on the administration's assault on the Department of Education.

              I just don't care. I will not bend the knee, kiss the ass, or offer up prior obedience.

              I admire you a lot for that. Hope I will do the same when the time comes.

              “I’m at an age when remembering something right away is as good as an orgasm.”—Gloria Steinem to Julia Louis-Dreyfus on Wiser Than Me

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                Was wearing a shirt with a Human Rights Campaign logo in an airport securtity line when I noticed a masculine woman staring bullets at me. I saw her signal a man, talk to him while glancing at me.
                I got the most thorough body and carry on search possible. It was very rudely done. It was years ago.
                Rights today?

                “I’m at an age when remembering something right away is as good as an orgasm.”—Gloria Steinem to Julia Louis-Dreyfus on Wiser Than Me

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                  With AI, it will make it easier to review everything from every post ever made to every like on every article or post.

                  In reviewing grants and the budget, the people working with Musk are hindered by their lack of expertise and the state of AI - but every month AI improves. 1984 will seem quite quaint by the end of Trump's term.

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                  • ShiroKuroS ShiroKuro

                    @pique said in Be careful what you say:

                    seems like it is that or go to Japan and stay there

                    The problem is that it is not clear that this is what would happen.

                    We could go to Japan, come back in two weeks and have zero issues getting back into the country. And that is as it should be, both of us have done nothing wrong, and he has legal permanent residence.

                    The real problem is that there's no assurance that things actually play out as they should.

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                    @ShiroKuro said in Be careful what you say:

                    @pique said in Be careful what you say:

                    seems like it is that or go to Japan and stay there

                    The problem is that it is not clear that this is what would happen.

                    We could go to Japan, come back in two weeks and have zero issues getting back into the country. And that is as it should be, both of us have done nothing wrong, and he has legal permanent residence.

                    The real problem is that there's no assurance that things actually play out as they should.

                    Right. Which is why I think--at this moment in time-- your options are don't leave the country at all, or leave and don't try to come back. I think your fears are entirely justified. I personally wouldn't risk it.

                    fear is the thief of dreams

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                      The embedded links in this op-ed have a lot of info that's potentially relevant to @ShiroKuro ....

                      https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/mar/24/donald-trump-imperial-plan-usa-peoples-rights

                      When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                        Another incident:

                        HONOLULU (HawaiiNewsNow) - Green card holders are officially Lawful Permanent Residents of the United States, according to the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services. But being a resident of the United States is very different from being a citizen.

                        Lewelyn Dixon immigrated from the Philippines to Hawaii 50 years ago. She graduated from Farrington High School and has been working as a lab technician at the University of Washington.

                        Dixon was returning home to Seattle from a family trip to the Philippines.

                        “She was there for like a couple of weeks. And then she returned on Feb. 28. And she was stuck in customs,” said her niece, Emily Cristobal.

                        “We got the news, I think it was March 2, that she go taken by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and then detained in the Northwestern detainment facility,” she said. “We haven’t officially been told why she’s being held. They just keep saying that they’re waiting for documents.”

                        https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2025/03/22/immigration-crackdown-now-hitting-green-card-holders/

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                        • wtgW wtg

                          The embedded links in this op-ed have a lot of info that's potentially relevant to @ShiroKuro ....

                          https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/mar/24/donald-trump-imperial-plan-usa-peoples-rights

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                          ShiroKuro
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                          @wtg thanks, I'll take a look.

                          Sigh. 😞

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                            Wired has an article about this...

                            https://www.wired.com/2017/02/guide-getting-past-customs-digital-privacy-intact/?utm_brand=wired&utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_medium=social&utm_social-type=owned&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwY2xjawJOqGFleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHVAEmaYEp0dK2MEMYBl9tiRdON6T5Bv199F0cF1ONItGMgSYtzvYRDIGxA_aem_Zn2BI6pxtxNgXs4ifSFU_A

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                              thanks for that @Rontuner ... it's truly distressing and a bit overwhelming...

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                                Wired has an article about this...

                                https://www.wired.com/2017/02/guide-getting-past-customs-digital-privacy-intact/?utm_brand=wired&utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_medium=social&utm_social-type=owned&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwY2xjawJOqGFleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHVAEmaYEp0dK2MEMYBl9tiRdON6T5Bv199F0cF1ONItGMgSYtzvYRDIGxA_aem_Zn2BI6pxtxNgXs4ifSFU_A

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                                @Rontuner Great info, even though I'm not a traveler.

                                This link that was in your article is also most helpful:

                                https://www.wired.com/story/the-wired-guide-to-protecting-yourself-from-government-surveillance/

                                When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                                  This is so exhausting

                                  fear is the thief of dreams

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                                    You ain't whistlin' Dixie. I'm sorry to say there's more good news. From the Intercept:

                                    Trump Wants Immigrants on U.S. Soil to Hand Over Social Media Accounts to Apply for Citizenship

                                    Trump is demanding social media handles for citizenship, green card, and visa applicants whether they're already in the U.S. or not.

                                    https://archive.is/O37YC

                                    When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                                      I just listened to a lengthy post by a young Canadian woman who was flying into the State to for a friend's birthday party. She was pulled aside and was asked for her phone. The agent asked more questions that anyone has likely any of us - and very intrusive. The agent found some intimate photos of her and her boyfriend. She spent 7 hours in detention and was refused entry because the agent decided she was an escort. She looked nothing like Melania.

                                      The handful of Canadians (and folks from other nations) who might have thought of visiting the US - ain't gonna be coming. The ill will from other such pro-US initiatives is such that Canada, Europe and China could remove tariffs - and no one will be buying anything US. The US may become one giant Amish community in few years.

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                                        I just listened to a lengthy post by a young Canadian woman who was flying into the State to for a friend's birthday party. She was pulled aside and was asked for her phone. The agent asked more questions that anyone has likely any of us - and very intrusive. The agent found some intimate photos of her and her boyfriend. She spent 7 hours in detention and was refused entry because the agent decided she was an escort. She looked nothing like Melania.

                                        The handful of Canadians (and folks from other nations) who might have thought of visiting the US - ain't gonna be coming. The ill will from other such pro-US initiatives is such that Canada, Europe and China could remove tariffs - and no one will be buying anything US. The US may become one giant Amish community in few years.

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                                        @kluurs said in Be careful what you say:

                                        The handful of Canadians (and folks from other nations) who might have thought of visiting the US - ain't gonna be coming. The ill will from other such pro-US initiatives is such that Canada, Europe and China could remove tariffs - and no one will be buying anything US. The US may become one giant Amish community in few years.

                                        Seems to me the MAGA true believers will be happy to have a locked down, isolated America; one free from any and all foreigners.

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                                          I've just decided this morning that I am going to do the travel I was planning to do over the next year. One trip to the Yukon, another to Bhutan. Have to, while I have the resources and the physical capacity still (the later may be questionable). I'll be 70 next February and it will be the 30th anniversary of when Mr Pique and I met next March.

                                          If this ridiculousness is still going on, I will put my electronics, including my phone, in a bank lock box here at home, and get a burner phone for travel. Both trips are for extremely remote areas on horseback, so I'm going to go full Luddite, if I can manage it.

                                          fear is the thief of dreams

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