The tariff clown car rolls on - Canada edition
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Interesting. Found this pre-election article about tariffs that go back a ways and how they have affected the liquor industry.
https://robbreport.com/food-drink/spirits/whiskey-tariffs-explained-1235962246/
Thanks for sticking with us, @dolmansaxlil , despite our crazy president. We love Canada!
wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 01:23 last edited by@wtg said in The tariff clown car rolls on:
Interesting. Found this pre-election article about tariffs that go back a ways and how they have affected the liquor industry.
https://robbreport.com/food-drink/spirits/whiskey-tariffs-explained-1235962246/
Thanks for sticking with us, @dolmansaxlil , despite our crazy president. We love Canada!
I have nothing against the American people on the whole. I married one, after all! But I also hope that all the left leaning American folks understand that Canada’s defence against a world leader who is threatening our sovereignty isn’t going to be able to target only the MAGA folks.
Also, there has been some interesting talk here about how this might actually help smaller Canadian brands to get onto the big grocery store shelves. We are already seeing some changes in what is available. We aren’t missing any products, but some of the brand names have changed. New, smaller companies are suddenly appearing in the major stores. A small glimmer of good out of this nonsense.
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@wtg said in The tariff clown car rolls on:
Interesting. Found this pre-election article about tariffs that go back a ways and how they have affected the liquor industry.
https://robbreport.com/food-drink/spirits/whiskey-tariffs-explained-1235962246/
Thanks for sticking with us, @dolmansaxlil , despite our crazy president. We love Canada!
I have nothing against the American people on the whole. I married one, after all! But I also hope that all the left leaning American folks understand that Canada’s defence against a world leader who is threatening our sovereignty isn’t going to be able to target only the MAGA folks.
Also, there has been some interesting talk here about how this might actually help smaller Canadian brands to get onto the big grocery store shelves. We are already seeing some changes in what is available. We aren’t missing any products, but some of the brand names have changed. New, smaller companies are suddenly appearing in the major stores. A small glimmer of good out of this nonsense.
wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 01:54 last edited by wtg 3 Jun 2025, 01:59@dolmansaxlil said in The tariff clown car rolls on:
But I also hope that all the left leaning American folks understand that Canada’s defence against a world leader who is threatening our sovereignty isn’t going to be able to target only the MAGA folks.
Just to clarify, I posted the info about the political contributions because I think we all want to be informed consumers; it's helpful to know whose pockets the money is going into. it may be the case that some Americans might want to support Jack Daniel's. It might also be tthat some folks want to support Canada and buy Canadian whiskey, even if the cost is higher because of tariffs. These are all individual decisions.
In the past, people have tried to minimize or laugh off Trump's crazy ideas, but given what's happened since he took office on January 20, it's clear there's a plan being executed and it is chaotic and far-reaching. I believe a lot of things are going to change, and not for the better, as a result of his actions.
It is really, really sad that so many people are going to suffer needlessly because of his decisions. The world has to stand up to him and try to stop him as much as possible. I personally agree with what Canada is doing in this whole tariff mess. You have to do what you have to do in order to protect yourselves. So does the rest of the world. I can only speak for myself, but you have my wholehearted support.
When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier
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wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 03:08 last edited by
I've been reading some Canadian online discussions. Many--apparently including Trudeau--think the tariffs war is all about Trump trying to destroy the Canadian economy so he can annex the country. I wonder what King Charles will have to say about that when they meet? Hope the dungeons in the castle are still usable.
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@dolmansaxlil said in The tariff clown car rolls on:
But I also hope that all the left leaning American folks understand that Canada’s defence against a world leader who is threatening our sovereignty isn’t going to be able to target only the MAGA folks.
Just to clarify, I posted the info about the political contributions because I think we all want to be informed consumers; it's helpful to know whose pockets the money is going into. it may be the case that some Americans might want to support Jack Daniel's. It might also be tthat some folks want to support Canada and buy Canadian whiskey, even if the cost is higher because of tariffs. These are all individual decisions.
In the past, people have tried to minimize or laugh off Trump's crazy ideas, but given what's happened since he took office on January 20, it's clear there's a plan being executed and it is chaotic and far-reaching. I believe a lot of things are going to change, and not for the better, as a result of his actions.
It is really, really sad that so many people are going to suffer needlessly because of his decisions. The world has to stand up to him and try to stop him as much as possible. I personally agree with what Canada is doing in this whole tariff mess. You have to do what you have to do in order to protect yourselves. So does the rest of the world. I can only speak for myself, but you have my wholehearted support.
wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 15:36 last edited by@wtg said in The tariff clown car rolls on:
@dolmansaxlil said in The tariff clown car rolls on:
But I also hope that all the left leaning American folks understand that Canada’s defence against a world leader who is threatening our sovereignty isn’t going to be able to target only the MAGA folks.
Just to clarify, I posted the info about the political contributions because I think we all want to be informed consumers; it's helpful to know whose pockets the money is going into. it may be the case that some Americans might want to support Jack Daniel's. It might also be tthat some folks want to support Canada and buy Canadian whiskey, even if the cost is higher because of tariffs. These are all individual decisions.
In the past, people have tried to minimize or laugh off Trump's crazy ideas, but given what's happened since he took office on January 20, it's clear there's a plan being executed and it is chaotic and far-reaching. I believe a lot of things are going to change, and not for the better, as a result of his actions.
It is really, really sad that so many people are going to suffer needlessly because of his decisions. The world has to stand up to him and try to stop him as much as possible. I personally agree with what Canada is doing in this whole tariff mess. You have to do what you have to do in order to protect yourselves. So does the rest of the world. I can only speak for myself, but you have my wholehearted support.
I appreciate the clarification. I definitely took it differently than you intended! I think I have just (already!) had it with American business owners trying to place any blame on Canada for this mess!
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wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 15:55 last edited by wtg 3 Jun 2025, 16:27
I glossed over the part where the CEO was blaming Canada. It's definitely Trump's fault, not Canada's.
What struck me in the Jack Daniel's story and why I posted it was that it was an American corporation coming forward to talk about the adverse impacts the tariffs will have on their business. Trump isn't gonna change his approach unless there's a hue and cry from people (read: corporations) are unhappy about how things are going.
The other part, about Jack Daniel's political contributions, I posted because it surprised me when I looked up how much they give to which party. I assumed that since the company is in red state Tennessee that they were much more likely to be heavy contributors to the GOP and I was pleasantly surprised to see that they favor Democrats and wanted share that info. I want my money to go to companies that support the things that matter to me (though in this particular case it doesn't matter because I don't drink Jack Daniel's!). Generally speaking, though, I certainly don't want to fund the companies that are helping dismantle our country.
As an aside, I think that link that @Rontuner provided is extremely helpful. In case anyone missed it:
@dolmansaxlil - I can definitely see how my earlier posts could have been interpreted. Glad we got it sorted!
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wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 16:47 last edited by
I mean, that’s worse than a tariff, because it’s literally taking your sales away, [and] completely removing our products from the shelves,” Whiting said on a post-earnings call..
The wrong people are losing money?
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wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 16:48 last edited by wtg 3 Jun 2025, 16:51
USMCA, the deal he negotiated. The great deal. The best deal. What did he think the M and the CA stood for?
Trump pauses tariffs on Mexican goods covered by USMCA until April 2
Trump said he will pause tariffs on Mexican goods that fall under the USMCA trade agreement until April 2.
“After speaking with President Claudia Sheinbaum of Mexico, I have agreed that Mexico will not be required to pay Tariffs on anything that falls under the USMCA Agreement,” Trump posted on Truth Social. “This Agreement is until April 2nd.”
Trump said he agreed to the exemption “out of respect” for Mexico President Claudia Sheinbaum. He did not mention Canada in the social media post.
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wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 01:38 last edited by wtg 3 Jul 2025, 01:39
Trump pauses tariffs on Canadian products. Again.
Canada, wisely, keeps their response tariffs on US products in place.
https://apnews.com/article/trudeau-trump-tariffs-trade-war-58eaa333ef96d4f17965bb7004e6bee7
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wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 03:51 last edited by
Clown car indeed…. And we’re all going to get run over.
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wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 04:36 last edited by
What I thing is happening is that a small group of people benefit from the timing of various announcements and the fairly predictable reaction of the markets.
Perhaps that was the goal all along.
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What I thing is happening is that a small group of people benefit from the timing of various announcements and the fairly predictable reaction of the markets.
Perhaps that was the goal all along.
wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 11:24 last edited by@Steve-Miller Our Premier, Doug Ford, said the same. I loathe the man with every fibre of my being but his response to this has been fantastic. He saw Trump as an ally because they share the same “money before everything else” idea. Now he feels betrayed and nothing makes a person fight harder than a perceived knife in the back. It might be the first time in the history of ever that my slightly right of middle father, socialist leaning me, and my “eat the rich” Gen Z kiddo have agreed with a politician”s actions at the same time.
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@Steve-Miller Our Premier, Doug Ford, said the same. I loathe the man with every fibre of my being but his response to this has been fantastic. He saw Trump as an ally because they share the same “money before everything else” idea. Now he feels betrayed and nothing makes a person fight harder than a perceived knife in the back. It might be the first time in the history of ever that my slightly right of middle father, socialist leaning me, and my “eat the rich” Gen Z kiddo have agreed with a politician”s actions at the same time.
wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 13:47 last edited by ShiroKuro 3 Jul 2025, 13:47@dolmansaxlil said in The tariff clown car rolls on:
Now he feels betrayed and nothing makes a person fight harder than a perceived knife in the back.
I am hoping that this will turn out to be Trump's greatest miscalculation...
IOW, he keeps pissing people off and eventually they're all going to come for him
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@Steve-Miller Our Premier, Doug Ford, said the same. I loathe the man with every fibre of my being but his response to this has been fantastic. He saw Trump as an ally because they share the same “money before everything else” idea. Now he feels betrayed and nothing makes a person fight harder than a perceived knife in the back. It might be the first time in the history of ever that my slightly right of middle father, socialist leaning me, and my “eat the rich” Gen Z kiddo have agreed with a politician”s actions at the same time.
wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 14:31 last edited by@dolmansaxlil said in The tariff clown car rolls on:
It might be the first time in the history of ever that my slightly right of middle father, socialist leaning me, and my “eat the rich” Gen Z kiddo have agreed with a politician”s actions at the same time.
So maybe Trump is actually the uniter he claims to be!
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@dolmansaxlil said in The tariff clown car rolls on:
It might be the first time in the history of ever that my slightly right of middle father, socialist leaning me, and my “eat the rich” Gen Z kiddo have agreed with a politician”s actions at the same time.
So maybe Trump is actually the uniter he claims to be!
wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 19:57 last edited by@wtg said in The tariff clown car rolls on:
@dolmansaxlil said in The tariff clown car rolls on:
It might be the first time in the history of ever that my slightly right of middle father, socialist leaning me, and my “eat the rich” Gen Z kiddo have agreed with a politician”s actions at the same time.
So maybe Trump is actually the uniter he claims to be!
Hahahaha!
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(Should have put this in the other tariff thread. Sorry...)
Guess they must have heard about this:
Fox went to a car dealership in Pennsylvania and showed what those tariffs mean for the price of trucks, and that clip is going viral.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/dodge-truck-tariff-price
Tariff, no tariff, tariff, tariff exemption. Like they can build plants in a month.
President Donald Trump has granted an exemption on auto tariffs on Mexico and Canada for one month, White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt confirmed Wednesday.
“We spoke with the Big Three auto dealers. We are going to give a one-month exemption on any autos coming through USMCA,” Trump said in a statement Leavitt read in a White House briefing. Those dealers included Stellantis, Ford and General Motors.
“He told them they should get on it, start investing, start moving, shift production here to the United States of America, where they will pay no tariff. That’s the ultimate goal,” she added.
“Reciprocal tariffs will still go into effect on April 2. But at the request of the companies associated with USMCA, the president is giving them an exemption for one month so they’re not at an economic disadvantage.”
https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/05/business/tariffs-autos-mexico-canada-paused/index.html
wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 21:21 last edited by@wtg said in The tariff clown car rolls on:
Tariff, no tariff, tariff, tariff exemption.
It may not be going well.
Trump's tariff turnarounds are key to his strategy — but it may not pay off in the long term
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trumps-tariff-turnarounds-key-strategy-102101841.html
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wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 22:13 last edited by wtg 3 Aug 2025, 00:17
Trump threatens new tariffs on Canada, including 250% tax on dairy
“The market is having trouble digesting the multidimensional chess that Trump and his team are playing,” said Michael Block, market strategist at Third Seven Capital. “This multidimensional chess game is not going well for the grand master. There may be a method to the madness. He might be trying to confuse world leaders. But the market is saying stop confusing us. we don’t like this.”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-threatens-tariffs-canada-including-173601398.html
where's the cuckoo emoticon? Guess this will have to do:
When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier
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wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 22:57 last edited by
🦤🤪
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Trump threatens new tariffs on Canada, including 250% tax on dairy
“The market is having trouble digesting the multidimensional chess that Trump and his team are playing,” said Michael Block, market strategist at Third Seven Capital. “This multidimensional chess game is not going well for the grand master. There may be a method to the madness. He might be trying to confuse world leaders. But the market is saying stop confusing us. we don’t like this.”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-threatens-tariffs-canada-including-173601398.html
where's the cuckoo emoticon? Guess this will have to do:
wrote on 8 Mar 2025, 17:40 last edited by@wtg said in The tariff clown car rolls on:
There may be a method to the madness.
There is none. No method, only madness.
His MO is chaos.
I believe part of that is because he cannot organize his own thoughts. We are seeing... we are living in... the manifestation of the chaos inside his head.
It's like "Being John Malkovich" except instead of a surrealist fantasy, it's an all too real nightmare from which we cannot awaken.
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wrote on 10 Mar 2025, 16:01 last edited by wtg 3 Oct 2025, 16:22
Ontario’s premier, the leader of Canada’s most populous province, announced that effective Monday it is charging 25% more for electricity to 1.5 million Americans in response to U.S. President Donald Trump’s trade war.
Ontario provides electricity to Minnesota, New York and Michigan.
“I will not hesitate to increase this charge. If the United State escalates, I will not hesitate to shut the electricity off completely,” Ontario Premier Doug Ford said at a news conference in Toronto.
Ford said Trump changes his mind every day, but if he continues to attack Canada he will do everything it takes to maximize the pain.
“Republicans, at least the ones I speak to, do not agree with President Trump but they are too scared to go out there and say it publicly,” Ford said. “It’s a shame but we need to end this.”
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wrote on 10 Mar 2025, 16:34 last edited by
I mean, if we (within the US) can't impose consequences on Trump for his bad behavior, those consequences are going to come from outside the US.
Those are some big states, maybe they'll start going after Trump when they start feeling the pain.
