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    Bernard
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    Rubio is excrement. So is Lindsey Graham.

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      wtg
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      Zelenskyy on Fox after the Oval Office meeting.

      https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/28/politics/video/zelensky-asked-about-apology-trump-meeting-fox-intv-digvid

      When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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        You might not be disappointed in Rubio if you were a Floridan. This topic traversed delicate issues and I'll leave it alone. I will say my guess is he's another player who's out of his depth.

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          You might not be disappointed in Rubio if you were a Floridan. This topic traversed delicate issues and I'll leave it alone. I will say my guess is he's another player who's out of his depth.

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            Piano*Dad
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            If there exists anyone who does not already know Tim Snyder, he is arguably America's leading expert on central and eastern Europe.

            https://snyder.substack.com/p/five-failures-in-the-oval-office

            Crazy economist who likes to write about higher education.

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              Piano*Dad
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              Winston Churchill visiting the White House during WWII. Love his suit.

              https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:qd4cgbqpaxz6vh222fl54der/bafkreiezumi7qsyzzbyayp27jnpond4dekzds75rcoa32hhb4b4haitwxm@jpeg
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              A quip about the staged fracas in the WH ...

              "A reporter who's dating a woman in Congress who looks like a Neanderthal takes issues with a man who isn't wearing a suit while fluffing for the two men wearing makeup in the Oval Office."

              Crazy economist who likes to write about higher education.

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                If there exists anyone who does not already know Tim Snyder, he is arguably America's leading expert on central and eastern Europe.

                https://snyder.substack.com/p/five-failures-in-the-oval-office

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                wtg
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                @Piano-Dad said in Ukraine:

                If there exists anyone who does not already know Tim Snyder, he is arguably America's leading expert on central and eastern Europe.

                https://snyder.substack.com/p/five-failures-in-the-oval-office

                Everyone should listen to Snyder's remarks. Sadly the people who most need to hear them probably won't.

                Snyder has included some links to organizations that benefit Ukraine, for those inclined to lend their support.

                When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                • Piano*DadP Piano*Dad

                  Winston Churchill visiting the White House during WWII. Love his suit.

                  https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:qd4cgbqpaxz6vh222fl54der/bafkreiezumi7qsyzzbyayp27jnpond4dekzds75rcoa32hhb4b4haitwxm@jpeg
                  image.png

                  A quip about the staged fracas in the WH ...

                  "A reporter who's dating a woman in Congress who looks like a Neanderthal takes issues with a man who isn't wearing a suit while fluffing for the two men wearing makeup in the Oval Office."

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                  @Piano-Dad
                  Nothing like a bit of power dressing in expensive suits.

                  Whodathunk a comedian would make a better politician than two smartly dressed plonkers.

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                    @Piano-Dad said in Ukraine:

                    If there exists anyone who does not already know Tim Snyder, he is arguably America's leading expert on central and eastern Europe.

                    https://snyder.substack.com/p/five-failures-in-the-oval-office

                    Everyone should listen to Snyder's remarks. Sadly the people who most need to hear them probably won't.

                    Snyder has included some links to organizations that benefit Ukraine, for those inclined to lend their support.

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                    ShiroKuro
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                    @wtg said in Ukraine:

                    Sadly the people who most need to hear them probably won't.

                    Isn't this ever the problem, now more than ever. 😞

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                      wtg
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                      #63

                      Not a response to what happened yesterday, but it sure is another sign of Trump walking away from Ukraine.

                      State Department terminates U.S. support of Ukraine energy grid restoration

                      The USAID initiative had invested hundreds of millions of dollars in helping Ukraine's energy grid recover from attacks from Russia.

                      https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/state-department-terminates-us-support-ukraine-energy-grid-restoration-rcna194259

                      When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                        An Oval Office confrontation where President Donald Trump shouted at Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and threw him out of the White House on Friday has left U.S. Sen. Lisa Murkowski “sick to my stomach” about concerns Trump is openly “walking away from our allies,” she stated in a social media post Saturday.

                        “This week started with administration officials refusing to acknowledge that Russia started the war in Ukraine,” she wrote. “It ends with a tense, shocking conversation in the Oval Office and whispers from the White House that they may try to end all U.S. support for Ukraine. I know foreign policy is not for the faint of heart, but right now, I am sick to my stomach as the administration appears to be walking away from our allies and embracing Putin, a threat to democracy and U.S. values around the world.”

                        https://www.juneauempire.com/news/murkowski-sick-to-my-stomach-about-trumps-berating-of-ukraines-zelenskyy-in-oval-office/

                        When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                          Piano*Dad
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                          She and Collins need to switch parties instead of expressing frustration and the occasional tut tut.

                          Crazy economist who likes to write about higher education.

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                            Senator Collins is concerned and yet reckless at least so long as she can come out of the business looking as if she might have given consideration to the matter at hand and then acted to the extent of her most idiotic selection.

                            Senator Collins is the worst of the worst. She puts out the pretense that she has some valuable contribution to manage and then fails to do the right thing. One has to look to Senator Lindsay [sic] Graham to find much of any means to challenge her degree of willing indifference to what is in the best interest of her Nation.

                            From a comment at NYTimes a while back. This is the best characterization I've ever read about the perpetually concerned one from Maine.

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                              wtg
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                              JD went skiing at Sugarbush. Vermonters turned out to say howdy.

                              https://vtdigger.org/2025/03/01/more-than-a-thousand-people-protest-vice-president-jd-vances-visit-to-vermont/

                              When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                                Norwegian fuel company Haltbakk Bunkers has announced it will cease supplying fuel to U.S. military forces in Norway and American ships docking in Norwegian ports, citing dissatisfaction with recent U.S. policy towards Ukraine.

                                In a strongly worded statement, the company criticised a televised event involving U.S. President Donald Trump and Vice President J.D. Vance, referring to it as the “biggest shitshow ever presented live on TV.” Haltbakk Bunkers praised Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky for his restraint, accusing the U.S. of “putting on a backstabbing TV show” and declaring that the spectacle “made us sick.”

                                As a result, the company stated: “We have decided to immediately STOP as fuel provider to American forces in Norway and their ships calling Norwegian ports. No Fuel to Americans!” Haltbakk Bunkers also urged Norwegians and Europeans to follow their lead, concluding their statement with the slogan “Slava Ukraina” in support of Ukraine.

                                https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/norwegian-fuel-supplier-refuses-u-s-warships-over-ukraine/

                                How long before war breaks out?

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                                  wtg
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                                  Oh boy. That’s gonna leave a mark.

                                  Never occurred to me a boycott could work in reverse.

                                  When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                                    Daniel
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                                    FDR famously once wore a cape. Who does that?!

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                                      Oh boy. That’s gonna leave a mark.

                                      Never occurred to me a boycott could work in reverse.

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                                      @wtg said in Ukraine:

                                      Never occurred to me a boycott could work in reverse.

                                      Will tariffs be far behind?

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                                        We still haven't circled back to the history of the western front of Ukraine supporting Hitler, and soldiers in this part of Ukraine having worn Nazi uniforms and valorized fascist ideas throughout this war.

                                        Well, now, we have done it.

                                        I don't want any more money going to Ukraine. We have more than enough domestic needs, all of which are conspicuous by the fact the US government has not addressed them in any serious way, and by the fact they have been getting worse not better.

                                        This war is over. Trump's attempt to get minerals and not give security guarantees was bizarre, but Ukraine is a bleeding wound. It should focus on its own cauterization, for the good of those still living, to put it bluntly.

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                                          wtg
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                                          Things look like they're moving...

                                          French President Emmanuel Macron on Sunday said the UK and France were working on a one-month truce in Ukraine “in the air, at sea and on energy infrastructure,” in an interview with a French daily. His comments came after British Prime Minister Keir Starmer ended a London security summit with a call for Europe to “do the heavy lifting” in Ukraine. Read our liveblog for the latest developments.

                                          https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20250302-🔴-live-european-leaders-to-rally-behind-ukraine-at-london-summit

                                          When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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