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  • wtgW Offline
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    wtg
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    #64

    An Oval Office confrontation where President Donald Trump shouted at Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and threw him out of the White House on Friday has left U.S. Sen. Lisa Murkowski “sick to my stomach” about concerns Trump is openly “walking away from our allies,” she stated in a social media post Saturday.

    “This week started with administration officials refusing to acknowledge that Russia started the war in Ukraine,” she wrote. “It ends with a tense, shocking conversation in the Oval Office and whispers from the White House that they may try to end all U.S. support for Ukraine. I know foreign policy is not for the faint of heart, but right now, I am sick to my stomach as the administration appears to be walking away from our allies and embracing Putin, a threat to democracy and U.S. values around the world.”

    https://www.juneauempire.com/news/murkowski-sick-to-my-stomach-about-trumps-berating-of-ukraines-zelenskyy-in-oval-office/

    When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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      #65

      She and Collins need to switch parties instead of expressing frustration and the occasional tut tut.

      Crazy economist who likes to write about higher education.

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        Bernard
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        #66

        Senator Collins is concerned and yet reckless at least so long as she can come out of the business looking as if she might have given consideration to the matter at hand and then acted to the extent of her most idiotic selection.

        Senator Collins is the worst of the worst. She puts out the pretense that she has some valuable contribution to manage and then fails to do the right thing. One has to look to Senator Lindsay [sic] Graham to find much of any means to challenge her degree of willing indifference to what is in the best interest of her Nation.

        From a comment at NYTimes a while back. This is the best characterization I've ever read about the perpetually concerned one from Maine.

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          #67

          JD went skiing at Sugarbush. Vermonters turned out to say howdy.

          https://vtdigger.org/2025/03/01/more-than-a-thousand-people-protest-vice-president-jd-vances-visit-to-vermont/

          When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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            Norwegian fuel company Haltbakk Bunkers has announced it will cease supplying fuel to U.S. military forces in Norway and American ships docking in Norwegian ports, citing dissatisfaction with recent U.S. policy towards Ukraine.

            In a strongly worded statement, the company criticised a televised event involving U.S. President Donald Trump and Vice President J.D. Vance, referring to it as the “biggest shitshow ever presented live on TV.” Haltbakk Bunkers praised Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky for his restraint, accusing the U.S. of “putting on a backstabbing TV show” and declaring that the spectacle “made us sick.”

            As a result, the company stated: “We have decided to immediately STOP as fuel provider to American forces in Norway and their ships calling Norwegian ports. No Fuel to Americans!” Haltbakk Bunkers also urged Norwegians and Europeans to follow their lead, concluding their statement with the slogan “Slava Ukraina” in support of Ukraine.

            https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/norwegian-fuel-supplier-refuses-u-s-warships-over-ukraine/

            How long before war breaks out?

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              wtg
              wrote on last edited by wtg
              #69

              Oh boy. That’s gonna leave a mark.

              Never occurred to me a boycott could work in reverse.

              When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                Daniel
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                #70

                FDR famously once wore a cape. Who does that?!

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                • wtgW wtg

                  Oh boy. That’s gonna leave a mark.

                  Never occurred to me a boycott could work in reverse.

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                  Axtremus
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                  #71

                  @wtg said in Ukraine:

                  Never occurred to me a boycott could work in reverse.

                  Will tariffs be far behind?

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                    Daniel
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                    #72

                    We still haven't circled back to the history of the western front of Ukraine supporting Hitler, and soldiers in this part of Ukraine having worn Nazi uniforms and valorized fascist ideas throughout this war.

                    Well, now, we have done it.

                    I don't want any more money going to Ukraine. We have more than enough domestic needs, all of which are conspicuous by the fact the US government has not addressed them in any serious way, and by the fact they have been getting worse not better.

                    This war is over. Trump's attempt to get minerals and not give security guarantees was bizarre, but Ukraine is a bleeding wound. It should focus on its own cauterization, for the good of those still living, to put it bluntly.

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                      #73

                      Things look like they're moving...

                      French President Emmanuel Macron on Sunday said the UK and France were working on a one-month truce in Ukraine “in the air, at sea and on energy infrastructure,” in an interview with a French daily. His comments came after British Prime Minister Keir Starmer ended a London security summit with a call for Europe to “do the heavy lifting” in Ukraine. Read our liveblog for the latest developments.

                      https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20250302-🔴-live-european-leaders-to-rally-behind-ukraine-at-london-summit

                      When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                        Daniel
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                        #74

                        Link to video

                        Piers Morgan was bought and paid for a long time ago.

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                          wtg
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                          #75

                          Rubio on the Budapest Memorandum. That was then, I guess.

                          https://bsky.app/profile/calltoactivism.bsky.social/post/3ljfvogoqus23

                          When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                            wtg
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                            #76

                            The Finnish president. A lesson in leadership and diplomacy that a couple bunch of someones in the US need to see and learn from, but of course won't.

                            Totally inspiring.

                            video and transcript:

                            https://www.presidentti.fi/en/address-by-president-of-the-republic-of-finland-alexander-stubb-at-the-support-ukraine-summit/

                            Made my day. There's hope for the world.

                            When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                              wtg
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                              Why Putin may be ready to negotiate.

                              https://www.politico.eu/article/vladimir-putin-russia-donald-trump-moscow-ukraine-gdp-finance-war-banks/

                              When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                                Many of us thought that Russia would have more trouble with its economy than it has had, given the financial sanctions that it has faced. Russia has hung on as long as it has in part because it has sold its soul (and future) to China, and gone hat in hand to North Korea and Iran. Putin has also had skilled leadership at the Russian central bank (Elvira Nabiullina). As this article demonstrates, Putin has also been able to kick the financial can down the road a bit by hollowing out Russia's financial system in ways that will potentially bankrupt millions in the future, no matter what happens in this war over the next year or two.

                                Crazy economist who likes to write about higher education.

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                                  Many of us thought that Russia would have more trouble with its economy than it has had, given the financial sanctions that it has faced. Russia has hung on as long as it has in part because it has sold its soul (and future) to China, and gone hat in hand to North Korea and Iran. Putin has also had skilled leadership at the Russian central bank (Elvira Nabiullina). As this article demonstrates, Putin has also been able to kick the financial can down the road a bit by hollowing out Russia's financial system in ways that will potentially bankrupt millions in the future, no matter what happens in this war over the next year or two.

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                                  wtg
                                  wrote on last edited by wtg
                                  #79

                                  @Piano-Dad said in Ukraine:

                                  Elvira Nabiullina

                                  Looked her up. Apparently she tried to quit her job over Ukraine but Putin told her to stay put. Wonder what floor her office is on.

                                  When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                                    Meanwhile, the US is considering whether to lift some sanctions against Russia.

                                    https://kyivindependent.com/trump-administration-weighs-sanctions-relief-for-russia-reuters-reports/

                                    When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                                      wtg
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                                      #81

                                      ...and has paused all military aid to Ukraine..the Toddler-in-Chief is having a tantrum...

                                      President Donald Trump is seeking to pressure Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to engage in peace talks with Russia by pausing military aid to Ukraine.

                                      A White House official said Trump wants Zelenskyy committed to the ending of the war that began when Russia invaded the now war-torn country. The official, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss the assistance, added that the U.S. was “pausing and reviewing” its aid to “ensure that it is contributing to a solution.”

                                      https://apnews.com/live/donald-trump-news-updates-3-3-2025

                                      When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                                        #82

                                        Thank you, Sweden.

                                        Link to video

                                        Crazy economist who likes to write about higher education.

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                                        • D Daniel

                                          Link to video

                                          Piers Morgan was bought and paid for a long time ago.

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                                          Daniel
                                          wrote on last edited by Daniel
                                          #83

                                          @Daniel said in Ukraine:

                                          Link to video

                                          Piers Morgan was bought and paid for a long time ago.

                                          This is the actual history of this conflict. How much of it do our threads leave out? 90%?

                                          The US will give up its unrealistic ambition of being the globe's unipolar power or there will be more foreign policy disasters (the list is a long one) and it will continue in the degradation of its infrastructure and the impoverishment of its people.

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