Reports from the heartland
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Reports are that lines to vote in Ohio are longer than they’ve ever been. People have been standing in line for hours. What this portends, I don’t know.
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Aldi was nearly out of wine at 3 PM. I didn’t check popcorn.
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@Steve-Miller I think it portends that it will be weeks before all the votes will be counted.. That means I should go to bed now.
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Naw. It’s done.
It’s 2016 all over again.
And Germany, 1938.
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Kudos where it's due.
He's a fighter, been under assault psychologically, politically, legally and literally.It only takes a couple of % swing, the US is so evenly split. And the anti-incumbent thing is a factor.
Will he finish his wall?
Will he impose more Chinese import tariffs?
Stop aid for Ukraine and give it all to Israel?
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No silver lining. It is clear now who we are as a country. Tim S
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I am disappointed that Brown lost. he was a very good public servant.
I'm glad Issue 1 lost.
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I’m out of words.
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It's a shocker. It's hard for me to believe half the USA is so incredibly stupid. When I look at who bankrolled Trump I have to wonder if we aren't actually seeing some form of election interference we aren't familiar with.
fear is the thief of dreams
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So people who disagree with you are stupid. No elitism there, nosirree.
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@Mik I believe that a significant portion of the people who voted for Trump did so on the basis of expectations about what Trump will do for them, and they will soon find that those expectations are going to remain unmet. In that regard, I think they are lacking in depth of insight and lacking in the ability to see what is in front of them. The economy is one of those things. People think Trump's economic policies are going to make their lives easier.... I think those people are in for a rude awakening.
I also think a lot of Trump supporters are selective in what they believe about him. In other words, they take some of what he says as true, and other things that are maybe unpleasant or distasteful, they (conveniently) disregard as him joking etc.
This is a dangerous game to play, because they may (likely) find that the parts they don't like about Trump are as true of him as the parts they do.
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We were given an awful choice this time around. I do not believe people (you and others here, my brother included) who came to a different conclusion are stupid. They just see the world differently.
But it is not hard to see that under the Biden Harris administration the world has moved much, much closer to a world war and continues to march in that direction. I think that had a lot to do with it. Whether he can turn it around or not is yet to be seen, but it was clear the current administration could not. They tried to hamstring our greatest ally in the Middle East when we should have been firmly supporting them rather than try to ride the fence. It is an awful situation, but at what point does the world stop letting terrorist militants hide among the people they claim to support? The Gazans were merely pawns in Hamas' power play. Displaying weakness and lack of resolve is dangerous and we see the result of that.
My hope is that the GOP will allow a reasonable immigration reform bill to get through, but that didn't happen last time they had the WH, House and Senate. We shall see.
I also hope they can get a handle on government spending. The Dems hurt themselves badly by floating trial balloons about taxing unrealized capital gains.
So we had a poor choice, whichever way one went. I just saw no reason to believe Harris was capable of handling the job. Trump already has and with better results than Biden Harris.
“I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
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The Republican party has been successful in the past "blaming and claiming"... Any problems moving forward will be because of Democrats/the media/immigrants/??? and any successes will be claimed as their own.
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@pique said in Reports from the heartland:
When I look at who bankrolled Trump I have to wonder if we aren't actually seeing some form of election interference we aren't familiar with.
I do find it astounding that there were something like 18 million fewer votes cast this election than in 2020 -- 3 mill fewer for the Rs, and 15 mill fewer for the Dems. This does not jibe with reports I've been hearing about lines at polling places nor with my own experience yesterday, where I was voter #401 at 9:30 am at a polling place that is lucky to see 400 voters for an entire election day.
You cannot tell me that, knowing what was at stake, 15 million Dems just decided they were going to sit this one out. No freaking way. I would not be suprirsed if Russia or some other power is manipulating the totals somehow. I think that's the reason Elon was so very positively sure that Trump was going to win that he swore he would give away his entire fortune if he lost. And if that's the case, our elections are well and truly screwed forever.
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What I find interesting is that our beloved system of checks and balances is gone. Congress = Trump. Supreme Court = Trump. Trump = Trump. Even the media is Trump (see “Post, Washington”)
They can do anything they want and there will be no one to say they can’t. I don’t think that’s ever happened before.
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@Lisa said in Reports from the heartland:
And if that's the case, our elections are well and truly screwed forever.
This is my fear.
Also, remember this, from summer?
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@Steve-Miller said in Reports from the heartland:
What I find
interestingterrifying is that our beloved system of checks and balances is gone. Congress = Trump. Supreme Court = Trump. Trump = Trump. Even the media is Trump (see “Post, Washington”)FIFY.
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Prepare for chaos.... creating that is his 'happy place'.
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When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace becomes a circus - Turkish proverb.
