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2024’s deplorables moment?

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    Daniel
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    I don't think it's an apt comparison.

    There's a difference between between a major party candidate dismissing half of the American population and a comic making a joke.

    Puerto Rico suffers from real injustices and significant disparities with its people being American citizens while having only the legal status of people living in a territory.

    There probably was only ever a snowflake's chance in hell of either party mentioning the real issues regarding Puerto Rico.

    It's not exactly news when a comic makes an impolitic joke.

    It's the federal government's treatment of Puerto Rico I think is deplorable.

    Hawaii used to be a territory and its people suffered the same in the territorial period so I have some sympathy for Puerto Rico.

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      Mik
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      It was a stupid, offensive joke, but that's all it was. It was this guy's shot at national attention and he took it.

      “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
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        Daniel
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        I didn't actually watch it. I don't watch any of the rallies.

        I see clips sometimes on YouTube kind of randomly or when Trump was almost assassinated.

        I'll watch it.

        Comics are court jesters anyway.
        Always have been. People (especially Democrats) should quit trying to impede the right to free speech we have in this country.

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          Rontuner
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          The comedian was vetted and everything said was on the teleprompter - don't think for a minute that Trump's team didn't want him to say all of that! It is only after the push-back from America that they are scrambling to say this was a stupid, offensive joke, it represents the central concept of Trumpness...

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            Mik
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            #6

            Evidently it's only bad when it's a GOP rally.

            Link to video

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              wtg
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              The only reactions that matter come from the group(s) that are the subject of the jokes.

              Guess we'll see how the Mexican community reacts to Lopez.

              Many in the Puerto Rican community don’t seem to have appreciated Hinchcliffe's sense of humor very much.

              When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                wtg
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                A thoughtful piece.

                https://www.tennessean.com/story/opinion/contributors/2024/10/29/racist-joke-puerto-rico-tony-hinchcliffe/75907421007/

                When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                  In the case of George Lopez (comedian featured in the video @Mik links to), as Lopez is himself of Mexico descent, this qualifies as self-deprecating humor.

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                    Mik
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                    That’s so weak.

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                      Link to video

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                        In the case of George Lopez (comedian featured in the video @Mik links to), as Lopez is himself of Mexico descent, this qualifies as self-deprecating humor.

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                        Steve Miller
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                        @Axtremus

                        Wait …

                        Is that George “ask a Mexican” Lopez?

                        Or am I confusing him with someone else?

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                          wtg
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                          Same one. Used to have a TV sitcom

                          When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                            Steve Miller
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                            Not generally someone I’d want on my campaign, but he wrote a really funny column in the LA alternative newspaper for years.

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                              The only reactions that matter come from the group(s) that are the subject of the jokes.

                              Guess we'll see how the Mexican community reacts to Lopez.

                              Many in the Puerto Rican community don’t seem to have appreciated Hinchcliffe's sense of humor very much.

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                              wtg
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                              @wtg said in 2024’s deplorables moment?:

                              Many in the Puerto Rican community don’t seem to have appreciated Hinchcliffe's sense of humor very much.

                              https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/10/29/trump-allentown-rally-puerto-rico-voters/75915372007/

                              When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                                Steve Miller
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                                Kinda makes sense. The Mexicans I knew in CA had little time for Puerto Ricans.

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                                  Daniel
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                                  Well, here's the "deplorables" moment actually and it comes from Biden.

                                  https://www.foxnews.com/media/biden-calls-trump-supporters-garbage-during-harris-campaign-call-vp-calls-unity-ellipse-rally

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                                    wtg
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                                    Saw that. It’s so very very sad that this is what it has come to. The election has devolved into a schoolyard brawl.

                                    🙁

                                    When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                                      Quirt Evans
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                                      There are 500,000 Puerto Ricans in Pennsylvania, and they vote in pretty good percentages. Over 100,000 in other swing states. They’re not happy with the joke, and a raft of celebs, including Bad Bunny, piling on Harris endorsements is driving the point home.

                                      As Ron said, it was on the teleprompter. And they nixed one of the guy’s jokes and left this one alone, so that says something.

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                                        Daniel
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                                        I agree. People should wrap their minds around the true meaning of the fact this is one nation.

                                        I'm afraid we're seeing a divide and conquer strategy or a multitude of them and they're working as intended.

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                                          Daniel
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                                          The Harris campaign wrote off Arab Americans in Michigan and everywhere else. They're a significant constituency in Michigan and two other states (which two I can't recall). She loses if she loses Michigan. She talked a little word salad, false equivalency kind of carp, but no finesse in her approach, only political incompetence.

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