Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Brite
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Brand Logo

WTF-Beta

  1. Home
  2. Categories
  3. Off Key - General Discussion
  4. Is Clair de Lune too hard for me?

Is Clair de Lune too hard for me?

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Off Key - General Discussion
12 Posts 5 Posters 67 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • AndyDA Away
    AndyDA Away
    AndyD
    wrote last edited by AndyD
    #2

    Trust your teachers.

    What grade have you passed & how long ago?

    I'd add, the bars are quite repetitive regarding fingering...
    And the fingering on the free music I limked on the other thread works well

    Ventosa viri restabit

    ShiroKuroS 2 Replies Last reply
    πŸ‘
    • B Offline
      B Offline
      Bernard
      wrote last edited by
      #3

      IMO, Clair de Lune is not much harder (if any) than Arabesque No. 1, some might even find Clair de Lune easier. I think Reverie is harder than either of them. Fingerings shouldn't stop you from working on a piece, and I think fingerings for Clair de Lune are easier to come up with than either of the other two. They can always be worked out and your teacher should be able to contribute to that. I am a big believer that one should be working on a piece that is just beyond one's current ability. The struggle is real but it is how one grows.

      So here’s my question: would playing either (or both) of these pieces, Reverie and Arabesque No 1, before starting CdL make CdL much easier to learn?

      They might but I don't think it's because they are easier. If someone asked me to prepare one of these three for a student recital next month, I'd pick Clair de Lune. But everyone is different.

      The industrial revolution cheapened everything.

      1 Reply Last reply
      πŸ‘
      • C Offline
        C Offline
        CHAS
        wrote last edited by
        #4

        I don't know the answer.
        I do know I want to hear you play all three of them. So get crackn' πŸ™‚

        "Art is the only way to run away without leaving home."

        • Twyla Tharp
        1 Reply Last reply
        β™₯
        • AndyDA AndyD

          Trust your teachers.

          What grade have you passed & how long ago?

          I'd add, the bars are quite repetitive regarding fingering...
          And the fingering on the free music I limked on the other thread works well

          ShiroKuroS Offline
          ShiroKuroS Offline
          ShiroKuro
          wrote last edited by
          #5

          thanks for the comments everyone!

          @AndyD said:

          What grade have you passed & how long ago?

          I have never taken any grade exams, so I don't have a sense of my level. I've been playing for over 25 years, but I started as an adult.

          Although, one piece I'm close to finishing is apparently an ABRSM grade 6, and that piece is easy for me. The internet AI says CdL is grade 8, so that should be do-able in theory...

          @Bernard said:

          Clair de Lune is not much harder (if any) than Arabesque No. 1, some might even find Clair de Lune easier. I think Reverie is harder than either of them.

          this is interesting because just looking at the score, CdL looks harder to me...

          re fingering

          @Bernard said:

          They can always be worked out and your teacher should be able to contribute to that.

          Yes, but I don't want to spend my whole lesson working out fingers for the whole thing, if it's a piece within my level, I ought to be able to do the bulk of it myself.

          OTOH, learning this would probably push me forward...

          Anyway, I'll see how I do during tonight's practice.

          1 Reply Last reply
          • AndyDA Away
            AndyDA Away
            AndyD
            wrote last edited by AndyD
            #6

            Re fingering, I spent an hour at the dining table adding numbers to various notes (on the third(?) day of practising it) copying from the free music link; then another hour playing it & pausing to add more.
            Worth the effort.

            Ventosa viri restabit

            ShiroKuroS 1 Reply Last reply
            • AndyDA AndyD

              Re fingering, I spent an hour at the dining table adding numbers to various notes (on the third(?) day of practising it) copying from the free music link; then another hour playing it & pausing to add more.
              Worth the effort.

              ShiroKuroS Offline
              ShiroKuroS Offline
              ShiroKuro
              wrote last edited by
              #7

              @AndyD said:

              I spent an hour at the dining table adding numbers to various notes

              Wow! I can't do that kind of thing away from the keyboard!

              And one of my concerns with CdL is that it won't just be a matter of figuring out the fingering, because I won't know what fingering to choose...

              Anyway, as I said, I'll look at it this evening and see what I think.

              1 Reply Last reply
              • M Offline
                M Offline
                Mark
                wrote last edited by
                #8

                You are more than capable of learning it.

                I have never played it. But, I'm pretty sure I could learn it. I have been so focused on Chopin over the past year that I feel like I should move on to a different composer.

                ShiroKuroS AndyDA 2 Replies Last reply
                πŸ‘
                • M Mark

                  You are more than capable of learning it.

                  I have never played it. But, I'm pretty sure I could learn it. I have been so focused on Chopin over the past year that I feel like I should move on to a different composer.

                  ShiroKuroS Offline
                  ShiroKuroS Offline
                  ShiroKuro
                  wrote last edited by
                  #9

                  @Mark thank you for the vote of confidence!

                  I just finished a session on another piece, so now I'm heading over to CdL...

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  • AndyDA AndyD

                    Trust your teachers.

                    What grade have you passed & how long ago?

                    I'd add, the bars are quite repetitive regarding fingering...
                    And the fingering on the free music I limked on the other thread works well

                    ShiroKuroS Offline
                    ShiroKuroS Offline
                    ShiroKuro
                    wrote last edited by ShiroKuro
                    #10

                    @AndyD said:

                    And the fingering on the free music I limked on the other thread works well

                    This one, right?

                    https://vmirror.imslp.org/files/imglnks/usimg/5/5a/IMSLP664379-PMLP2397-SheetMusic_29267.pdf

                    I wish it were bigger, but it’s very helpful!

                    I think I’ll use my Henle score and use this one tonight in some fingering away from the keyboard.

                    Also I just realized it suddenly seems much easier if I turn my iPad sideways, bc the score is larger and easier to see πŸ˜…

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    😊
                    • AndyDA Away
                      AndyDA Away
                      AndyD
                      wrote last edited by
                      #11

                      Yes.
                      I'd be surprised if the linked music and the Henle have many differences in fingering. There's usually an accepted best way for fingers.

                      (e.g. no matter how big your left hand, arpeggios will need a certain finger next over your thumb in preparation for the continued run.
                      Although the lowest note may be played with 5 or 4 if hands are big and it helps flow.

                      And in the right hand for thirds, where all hand sizes will find a run easiest with the same fingering depending on how black notes fall, and what's to be played next)

                      Ventosa viri restabit

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      • M Mark

                        You are more than capable of learning it.

                        I have never played it. But, I'm pretty sure I could learn it. I have been so focused on Chopin over the past year that I feel like I should move on to a different composer.

                        AndyDA Away
                        AndyDA Away
                        AndyD
                        wrote last edited by
                        #12

                        @Mark said:

                        You are more than capable of learning it.

                        I have never played it. But, I'm pretty sure I could learn it. I have been so focused on Chopin over the past year that I feel like I should move on to a different composer.

                        What Chopin are you playing?

                        Ventosa viri restabit

                        1 Reply Last reply

                        Hello! It looks like you're interested in this conversation, but you don't have an account yet.

                        Getting fed up of having to scroll through the same posts each visit? When you register for an account, you'll always come back to exactly where you were before, and choose to be notified of new replies (either via email, or push notification). You'll also be able to save bookmarks and upvote posts to show your appreciation to other community members.

                        With your input, this post could be even better πŸ’—

                        Register Login
                        Reply
                        • Reply as topic
                        Log in to reply
                        • Oldest to Newest
                        • Newest to Oldest
                        • Most Votes


                        Powered by NodeBB | Contributors
                        • Login

                        • Don't have an account? Register

                        • Login or register to search.
                        • First post
                          Last post
                        0
                        • Categories
                        • Recent
                        • Tags
                        • Popular
                        • Users
                        • Groups