A good night for NYC progressives
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Yeah Mamdani had a good night that’s for sure (though Richie Torres had an easy victory in the South Bronx). It remains to be seen how well DSA types do outside of the bluest of blue districts though.
Lander’s victory didn’t surprise me he probably has better name recognition than the incumbent Dan Goldman (my old rep when I was in Brooklyn)
Chevalier’s win was more of a surprise to me - the guy she took out leads the Hispanic caucus in the house. She isn’t well known outside NYC but I suspect she’ll be starring in a lot of GOP ads. She took the most extreme positions on defunding police which haven’t aged very well.
Chevalier’s win was more of a surprise to me - the guy she took out leads the Hispanic caucus in the house. She isn’t well known outside NYC but I suspect she’ll be starring in a lot of GOP ads. She took the most extreme positions on defunding police which haven’t aged very well.
A couple of things that went against Espaillat: He's already a 5 term incumbent, people want change. His campaign got nasty with racism; wrong political climate for that from a Democrat against another Democrat. What is it with establishment Democrats getting all racist!?
She did take very far left positions on defunding the police. It's surprising that Espaillat's camp went nasty with racist comments when they had legitimate fodder. She has repeatedly stated that she has moved on from those positions and she has apologized more than once for some other things she said. It remains to be seen how well she moves on from there.
But her seat is assured in November.
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Wow that lady is a piece of work. Shes on the record with her goal being ‘to destroy western civilization’ and she’s criticized interracial marriage because black and brown men ‘shouldn’t marry ugly colonizer women’. Her wanting to cede the streets to criminals is probably one of her more moderate positions.
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Carville complains that the press can’t stop talking about Mamdani going 3 for 3 in the bluest parts pf NYC while totally ignoring the fact that the Serve America pac went 11 for 12 nationwide electing moderate dems.
Gives hope to those of us who don’t want to turn the party over to people like her.
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Moderate Dems should be elected in moderate districts if that what the electorate wants. Progressives should be elected in progressive districts. To say otherwise is to brush aside the electorate. If the Democratic party continues to brush aside (shit on) different factions of the party, they will continue to lose, or worse, splinter.
I don't think many people care what Carville says any more. He's from a different era. Times are changing. I'd almost say he's irrelevant.
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Carville complains that the press can’t stop talking about Mamdani going 3 for 3 in the bluest parts pf NYC while totally ignoring the fact that the Serve America pac went 11 for 12 nationwide electing moderate dems.
Gives hope to those of us who don’t want to turn the party over to people like her.
Carville complains that the press can’t stop talking
That's not messaging. Sure, he points out a fact--one that needs to be taken into account. But he's complaining about it. How about he celebrate it instead of causing division? He is out there, in the press, saying she is not a Democrat. He is out of step and causing fissures.
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Democratic strategist James Carville thinks some critics of Tuesday’s results are being overly dramatic, calling their reactions “90% hysterical.” But he told NewsNation’s Elizabeth Vargas on Wednesday that he doesn’t understand or appreciate these candidates’ efforts to use the Democratic Party to advance their socialist ideals.
“All of these people hate Democrats,” Carville told Vargas. “Why do you want to run as a Democrat? Start your own movement. If it’s such a powerful, sweeping movement that’s got momentum everywhere, then go ahead and be at the head of it. Don’t use the Democratic Party to advance it.”
Carville specifically called out Chevalier, saying Democrats shouldn’t seat her if she wins in November. He said her views were against anything Democrats support.
“We believe in pluralism. She doesn’t even believe in interracial dating,” Carville said.
“All of these people hate Democrats,” Carville told Vargas. Sounds like something MAGA would say. He's not helping unify the party, he's divisive. Democratic leadership currently enjoys only 25% favorable opinion from Democrats. Most of them are fed up with the DNC. The party had better wake up to the fact that there is broad support for Mamdani's ideas nation wide.
It is people like Carville tearing this party apart.
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It seems like they do hate democrats. After all, Isn’t that their theory of the case for nominating far left candidates? That left leaning voters stayed home in 2024, even with Trump on the ballot? Surely they’re not thinking that people like this racist hater of western civilization are going to win over maga voters, normie republicans or centrists.
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It seems like they do hate democrats. After all, Isn’t that their theory of the case for nominating far left candidates? That left leaning voters stayed home in 2024, even with Trump on the ballot? Surely they’re not thinking that people like this racist hater of western civilization are going to win over maga voters, normie republicans or centrists.
Surely they’re not thinking that people like this racist hater of western civilization are going to win over maga voters, normie republicans or centrists.
I'm surprised by this argument. I don't think they're so naive as to think they're going to win over anyone from MAGA. No one is going to win over MAGA. They are beholden to only one person. We shouldn't waste any of our time or efforts on them. This much should be obvious by now. What is a "normie" republican? Centrists? Politicians in moderate areas should tailor their messages and campaigns towards the electorate in those districts. But they most certainly don't need to piss on progressives to do so. Unless that's all they have, in which case it's pretty pathetic. I think we saw many successful campaigns in other districts that don't lean as far left on moderate terms. I don't see any problem here except the one that has-beens like Carville are intent on creating. For what? So they can "own" the progressives? Playing with fire to say the least. Could be the downfall of the Democrats. There are too many people fed up with the status quo.
B.S. on hating Democrats. But there is a lot of anger. Does the Big "Beautiful" Bill portray values of the Democratic party? Yet, 7 (or was it 9?) Democrats in Congress voted FOR it. So called "normal" Democrats have betrayed the party more than once in the past 2 years. And not least of which was Biden reneging on his promise to serve a single term thereby causing a hand-picked candidate that way too many people were unhappy about. (I was not one of those unhappy about her, but I was unhappy about the whole boondoggle.)
Despite what you may wish for, polls show a majority of Americans across the nation in favor of policies like Mamdani's. I'm here for it. We are so past the time for tackling obscene inequality.
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