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    jon-nyc
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    Link?

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      RealPlayer
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      I looked over the war news on NYT and couldn’t find this.

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        I saw some excerpts describing the damage some have taken, and many of the troops were evacuated before the war, knowing these would be targets. But they’re all (or almost all) still being used for aircraft sorties, which means they’re nowhere near obliterated. It’s not hard to disable a runway with a bomb.

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          Daniel
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          Freeze frame at 1:03

          Link to video

          Iran has the ability to target and destroy these bases and one is incredulous? Why?

          'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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            What does one expect from this war, anyway? The Commander is the President. The war was ill-advised. Every US intelligence agency failed to back any of the myriad of reasons the US public was told about it why it was necessary.

            'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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              AndyD
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              Don't worry Daniel, NATO have got your back

              Ventosa viri restabit

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                Daniel
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                Oh, I was never worried, Andy, and NATO is irrelevant.

                'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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                  Daniel
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                  13 US bases uninhabitable.

                  'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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                    AndyD
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                    Twelve thousand US soldiers potentially going to the area. Wonder where they'll be sent when they arrive?

                    Ventosa viri restabit

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                      Daniel
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                      I grew up in a military family two miles from an Air Force base.

                      Take out the runways. Take out the tower. What have you.

                      Don't forget military bases aren't countries. They are very small in terms of land area.

                      Americans have been fleeing to hotels from military bases for some time.

                      'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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                        Twelve thousand US soldiers potentially going to the area. Wonder where they'll be sent when they arrive?

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                        jon-nyc
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                        @AndyD said:

                        Twelve thousand US soldiers potentially going to the area. Wonder where they'll be sent when they arrive?

                        Maybe they’ll land directly on Kharg island.

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                          AndyD
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                          I was thinking go take back the Embassy

                          Ventosa viri restabit

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                            Daniel
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                            Does anyone disagree with me that a ground invasion of Iran by US forces and the IDF would be a disaster?

                            'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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                              I saw some excerpts describing the damage some have taken, and many of the troops were evacuated before the war, knowing these would be targets. But they’re all (or almost all) still being used for aircraft sorties, which means they’re nowhere near obliterated. It’s not hard to disable a runway with a bomb.

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                              Axtremus
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                              @jon-nyc said:

                              I saw some excerpts describing the damage some have taken, and many of the troops were evacuated before the war, knowing these would be targets. But they’re all (or almost all) still being used for aircraft sorties, which means they’re nowhere near obliterated. It’s not hard to disable a runway with a bomb.

                              "Obliterated" in the same sense that Trump has obliterated Iran's nuclear capabilities last year.

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                                Daniel
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                                No. Abandoned.

                                I don't understand a kind of cheerleading for an illegal war led by Trump of all people and one where the American military are being used in a mercenary capacity.

                                'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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                                  @jon-nyc said:

                                  I saw some excerpts describing the damage some have taken, and many of the troops were evacuated before the war, knowing these would be targets. But they’re all (or almost all) still being used for aircraft sorties, which means they’re nowhere near obliterated. It’s not hard to disable a runway with a bomb.

                                  "Obliterated" in the same sense that Trump has obliterated Iran's nuclear capabilities last year.

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                                  @Axtremus said:

                                  @jon-nyc said:

                                  I saw some excerpts describing the damage some have taken, and many of the troops were evacuated before the war, knowing these would be targets. But they’re all (or almost all) still being used for aircraft sorties, which means they’re nowhere near obliterated. It’s not hard to disable a runway with a bomb.

                                  "Obliterated" in the same sense that Trump has obliterated Iran's nuclear capabilities last year.

                                  They did not have nuclear capabilities. They had a nuclear program for industrial development. Their program was being inspected by the international nuclear agency. This is how we know.

                                  This pretext was bullshit. The rationalizations given for 2.0 were bullshit.

                                  'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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                                    You don’t enrich uranium to 60% for industrial use.

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                                      Yes, actually, you do. And, that's not the point. The point is Iran was not an eminent threat to the US, and therefore, this is an illegal war of aggression.

                                      'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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                                        Actually... 20% is all that's needed for nuclear reactors
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                                        A dozen US soldiers are reported injured on a US base overnight, so the bases aren't all abandoned.

                                        Yemen fired a missile at us last night so they are fair game.

                                        You can't negotiate reasonably with fanatical terrorists who have been chipping away at our democracies since 1979 and before. They don't care about anyone else, have nothing to lose except power.
                                        Trump needs to learn this, and also the true meaning of obliterate.

                                        Perhaps the time has come to give these murdering fanatics of Iran a fair warning and then go 'Bomber Harris' on their butts: You sink any one ship and we'll obliterate any one of your 140 cities, plus of course the area from which the missile was fired.
                                        Operation Meetinghouse#2

                                        Ventosa viri restabit

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                                          Daniel
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                                          I will look up the assessments of the international monitoring agency.

                                          Iran allowed inspections of its nuclear program. Israel has never allowed them.

                                          Again, every US intelligence agency (and there are a lot of them) said Iran posed no imminent threat to the US.

                                          So, again, it was a war of aggression, an illegal war.

                                          Again, it was Israel that influenced Trump's decision.

                                          Anyone who bought the "weapons of mass destruction" lie given as a pretext for the US invasion of Iraq is equally incorrect about the war on Iran.

                                          This war is backfiring on the US and the global economy. The US should stop acting as a mercenary force for Israel.

                                          Israel is a genocidal, ethno-supremacist state, operating on a theocratic belief that God chose it to expand its territory through mass killing.

                                          Let them fight their own wars with their own blood and treasure.

                                          I am surprised anyone would follow Trump concerning this war. We've complained about him for ten years but now he's competent, rational, and has moral authority?

                                          If you want to be a Zionist, be one. If you want to be a Neocon, be one.

                                          But, don't expect everyone to agree with an illegal war and crimes against humanity, because you'll be waiting until hell freezes over.

                                          'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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