No hard feelings
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wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 19:37 last edited by wtg
JD Vance is the VP pick.
Eight years ago, in the lead-up to the 2016 presidential election, J.D. Vance was a bitter critic of Donald Trump.
Publicly, he called the Republican presidential candidate an "idiot" and said he was "reprehensible." Privately, he compared him to Adolf Hitler.
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wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 20:27 last edited by
Yuck
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wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 21:48 last edited by
I read his book. I didn’t think much of it.
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wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 22:30 last edited by wtg
Guess I should read it. I
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wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 23:43 last edited by
I have heard enough carp coming out of the mouth of Vance. Will not read his book.
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wrote on 16 Jul 2024, 00:34 last edited by
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wrote on 16 Jul 2024, 01:34 last edited by
The thing to remember is that Vance did not grow up poor. His grandfather had a good job at Alcoa. His mom was an ER nurse. He grew up in Ohio, not Kentucky. Nice house, new cars. Plenty of food.
Then his mom developed a drug problem …
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wrote on 16 Jul 2024, 01:47 last edited by
Never mind the quality of writing in that book. 7th grade level tops.
If he wrote it Yale needs to yank his diploma. If he paid someone to write it he got screwed.
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wrote on 16 Jul 2024, 01:50 last edited by
A friend gave me her copy of the book when it originally came out. I started to read it and couldn't get past the the first couple of chapters.
A few hours ago I checked the ebook out of the library. Read the intro. Déjà vu all over again.
I think I'll be lucky if I make it 50 pages.
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wrote on 16 Jul 2024, 02:48 last edited by Steve Miller
It’s worth reading, now that he’s pretty much assured of being VP, to identify how much he hates poor people (study the “cell phone” incident) and poor black people in particular.
Also pay attention to his attempt to normalize the Appalacian impulse to go to extreme violence. The passage where MeMaw douses PePaw with gasoline and threatens to set him on fire for some imagined infidelity is instructive.
This guy is going to be our president in two years, and there isn’t a damned thing anyone can do about it.
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It’s worth reading, now that he’s pretty much assured of being VP, to identify how much he hates poor people (study the “cell phone” incident) and poor black people in particular.
Also pay attention to his attempt to normalize the Appalacian impulse to go to extreme violence. The passage where MeMaw douses PePaw with gasoline and threatens to set him on fire for some imagined infidelity is instructive.
This guy is going to be our president in two years, and there isn’t a damned thing anyone can do about it.
wrote on 16 Jul 2024, 10:40 last edited by@Steve-Miller said in No hard feelings:
to identify how much he hates poor people (study the “cell phone” incident) and poor black people in particular.
Yep. I remember reading some criticisms of the book when it came out (or maybe when the movie was made, don’t remember) and just finding him to be really repulsive.
This guy is going to be our president in two years, and there isn’t a damned thing anyone can do about it.
I don’t know enough about him to know whether he would be worse than Trump or not, but this is an unpleasant thought.
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wrote on 16 Jul 2024, 15:43 last edited by
I read his book back when it was on the best-sellers list. I found some parts consistent with the American dream as I knew it with its emphasis on self-help and pulling oneself up by one's bootstraps. However, its premise that those who didn't succeed had only themselves to blame didn't jibe with my own experiences. He failed to acknowledge how outside parties contributed to his own rise.
I was concerned when he became a US Senator for Ohio, my original home state. I'm even more alarmed to see him as potentially second in command of the executive branch of the federal government.
Big Al
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I read his book back when it was on the best-sellers list. I found some parts consistent with the American dream as I knew it with its emphasis on self-help and pulling oneself up by one's bootstraps. However, its premise that those who didn't succeed had only themselves to blame didn't jibe with my own experiences. He failed to acknowledge how outside parties contributed to his own rise.
I was concerned when he became a US Senator for Ohio, my original home state. I'm even more alarmed to see him as potentially second in command of the executive branch of the federal government.
Big Al
wrote on 16 Jul 2024, 16:43 last edited by@Big_Al said in No hard feelings:
its premise that those who didn't succeed had only themselves to blame didn't jibe with my own experiences. He failed to acknowledge how outside parties contributed to his own rise.
He also fails to acknowledge problems that contribute to the hardships experienced by others.
I agree, his candidacy is quite alarming.
