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    ShiroKuro
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    Yuck

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      Steve Miller
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      I read his book. I didn’t think much of it.

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        Guess I should read it. I skipped missed it first time around.

        When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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          I have heard enough carp coming out of the mouth of Vance. Will not read his book.

          “I’m at an age when remembering something right away is as good as an orgasm.”—Gloria Steinem to Julia Louis-Dreyfus on Wiser Than Me

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            https://newrepublic.com/article/138717/jd-vance-false-prophet-blue-america

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              The thing to remember is that Vance did not grow up poor. His grandfather had a good job at Alcoa. His mom was an ER nurse. He grew up in Ohio, not Kentucky. Nice house, new cars. Plenty of food.

              Then his mom developed a drug problem …

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                Never mind the quality of writing in that book. 7th grade level tops.

                If he wrote it Yale needs to yank his diploma. If he paid someone to write it he got screwed.

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                  A friend gave me her copy of the book when it originally came out. I started to read it and couldn't get past the the first couple of chapters.

                  A few hours ago I checked the ebook out of the library. Read the intro. Déjà vu all over again.

                  I think I'll be lucky if I make it 50 pages.

                  When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                    It’s worth reading, now that he’s pretty much assured of being VP, to identify how much he hates poor people (study the “cell phone” incident) and poor black people in particular.

                    Also pay attention to his attempt to normalize the Appalacian impulse to go to extreme violence. The passage where MeMaw douses PePaw with gasoline and threatens to set him on fire for some imagined infidelity is instructive.

                    This guy is going to be our president in two years, and there isn’t a damned thing anyone can do about it.

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                      It’s worth reading, now that he’s pretty much assured of being VP, to identify how much he hates poor people (study the “cell phone” incident) and poor black people in particular.

                      Also pay attention to his attempt to normalize the Appalacian impulse to go to extreme violence. The passage where MeMaw douses PePaw with gasoline and threatens to set him on fire for some imagined infidelity is instructive.

                      This guy is going to be our president in two years, and there isn’t a damned thing anyone can do about it.

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                      @Steve-Miller said in No hard feelings:

                      to identify how much he hates poor people (study the “cell phone” incident) and poor black people in particular.

                      Yep. I remember reading some criticisms of the book when it came out (or maybe when the movie was made, don’t remember) and just finding him to be really repulsive.

                      This guy is going to be our president in two years, and there isn’t a damned thing anyone can do about it.

                      I don’t know enough about him to know whether he would be worse than Trump or not, but this is an unpleasant thought.

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                        I read his book back when it was on the best-sellers list. I found some parts consistent with the American dream as I knew it with its emphasis on self-help and pulling oneself up by one's bootstraps. However, its premise that those who didn't succeed had only themselves to blame didn't jibe with my own experiences. He failed to acknowledge how outside parties contributed to his own rise.

                        I was concerned when he became a US Senator for Ohio, my original home state. I'm even more alarmed to see him as potentially second in command of the executive branch of the federal government.

                        Big Al

                        Money seems to buy the most happiness when you give it away.

                        Why does everything have to be so complicated, all in the name of convenience. -ShiroKuro

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                          I read his book back when it was on the best-sellers list. I found some parts consistent with the American dream as I knew it with its emphasis on self-help and pulling oneself up by one's bootstraps. However, its premise that those who didn't succeed had only themselves to blame didn't jibe with my own experiences. He failed to acknowledge how outside parties contributed to his own rise.

                          I was concerned when he became a US Senator for Ohio, my original home state. I'm even more alarmed to see him as potentially second in command of the executive branch of the federal government.

                          Big Al

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                          @Big_Al said in No hard feelings:

                          its premise that those who didn't succeed had only themselves to blame didn't jibe with my own experiences. He failed to acknowledge how outside parties contributed to his own rise.

                          He also fails to acknowledge problems that contribute to the hardships experienced by others.

                          I agree, his candidacy is quite alarming.

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