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Is the time ripe for the progressive movement?

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  • MikM Mik

    The "progressive values" as we know them today are anathema to the majority of voters. They bet on a losing horse there and then put all of their energies into attacking Trump even after he left office. Then they tried to pose as the defenders of democracy. I see no sign that they have changed so I think they will continue to be fringe.

    Edit: to wit: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/appeals-court-throws-out-massive-civil-fraud-penalty-against-president-donald-trump/ar-AA1KXt5n

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    @Mik Nope. Not the stats I've seen. Progressive ideas are popular. Universal basic income, minimum wage, government run healthcare, climate change. All garner a lot of support. Support for LGBT rights are high as well. Laws against discrimination against the gay community continue to be supported by a majority.

    Support for trans equality is not there yet (although growing support), but the fight continues. Rebutting falsehoods is the biggest challenge.

    The industrial revolution cheapened everything.

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    • J jon-nyc

      I think the Abundance Democrats are on to something - this is getting to the root of pocketbook issues that voters care about. Younger voters more than we old timers.

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      @jon-nyc On the face of it, it sounds like some good ideas. (Although how much of it is really new?) I haven't looked into much of the specifics, but am aware that it's not getting the red carpet from all factions of the party.

      Some amount of deregulation could be a big boost if it removes barriers towards growth. As long we don't allow ourselves to kick problems into the future.

      The industrial revolution cheapened everything.

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      • MikM Mik

        The "progressive values" as we know them today are anathema to the majority of voters. They bet on a losing horse there and then put all of their energies into attacking Trump even after he left office. Then they tried to pose as the defenders of democracy. I see no sign that they have changed so I think they will continue to be fringe.

        Edit: to wit: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/appeals-court-throws-out-massive-civil-fraud-penalty-against-president-donald-trump/ar-AA1KXt5n

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        @Mik said in Is the time ripe for the progressive movement?:

        The "progressive values" as we know them today are anathema to the majority of voters. They bet on a losing horse there and then put all of their energies into attacking Trump even after he left office. Then they tried to pose as the defenders of democracy. I see no sign that they have changed so I think they will continue to be fringe.

        Edit: to wit: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/appeals-court-throws-out-massive-civil-fraud-penalty-against-president-donald-trump/ar-AA1KXt5n

        They ran a candidate who got NOT ONE elected delegate and ran a campaign based on SAVING DEMOCRACY. I don't know how a political party recovers from such a debacle if only because I've never seen this before and wouldn't have written it as fiction.

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        • S Steve Miller

          What Jon said.

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          @Steve-Miller Ditto

          "If you're looking for sympathy, you'll find it between s**t and syphilis in the dictionary."-David Sedaris

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