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When a REAL ID isn't real enough

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  • wtgW Offline
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    A U.S.-born citizen who was wrestled into the dirt, handcuffed and detained in a vehicle as part of an immigration raid had a REAL ID on him that was dismissed as fake, the man's cousin said Friday.

    Video of the arrest, aired by Noticias Telemundo, showed authorities grabbing Leonardo Garcia Venegas, 25, while at a job site in Foley, Alabama, on Wednesday and bending his arms behind him. Someone off-camera can be heard yelling, "He's a citizen."

    Garcia told Noticias Telemundo that authorities took his ID from his wallet and told him it was fake before handcuffing him. REAL ID is the identification U.S. citizens are required by law to have in order to travel through airports and enter federal buildings. It is considered a higher security form of identification.

    "Apparently a REAL ID is not valid anymore. He has a REAL ID," his cousin Shelah Venegas said. "We all made sure we have the REAL ID and went through the protocols the administration is asking for. ... He has his REAL ID and then they see him and I guess because his English isn't fluent and/or because he's brown it's fake, it's not real."

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/us-citizen-immigration-raid-real-id-handcuffed-alabama-rcna208794

    When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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    • wtgW Offline
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      Probably should change the title of this thread to "Travel in America 2025.

      ‘I’m not a criminal’: Military wife detained, deported at Honolulu airport

      https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2025/05/24/im-not-criminal-australian-woman-recounts-detention-experience-while-trying-visit-us-military-spouse-hawaii/

      When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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      • Piano*DadP Online
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        I do not know why we haven't yet seen a spate of suits against ICE. You can sue the government for damages.

        https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/suing-government-negligence-FTCA-29705.html#:~:text=As we discuss below%2C you,to investigate and evaluate it.

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        Crazy economist who likes to write about higher education.

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        • rustyfingersR Offline
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          There have been many suits against this administration. Not sure how many are due to false arrests against US citizens that specifically name ICE as defendant though. https://www.justsecurity.org/107087/tracker-litigation-legal-challenges-trump-administration/

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          • Piano*DadP Online
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            Lots of suits, of course, but I'm talking torts for damages.

            Crazy economist who likes to write about higher education.

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              Papers, please.

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