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  • AndyDA AndyD

    After hearing my wife strum chords, I first got a flamenco guitar and a comprehensive teach yourself book which I can't find (this was from living in Spain and hearing it and fado in Lisboa in 1984.
    Soon realised lessons were needed for the technique, it was way beyond adult beginner.

    Then inspired by Andrés Segovia and David Qualey playing, I got a classical guitar, and a year later a steel strung parlour size folk style.
    Used terrific books by Frederick Noad mostly, Solo Guitar Playing vols 1 & 2.
    And attempted some from The Romantic Guitar by Carlos Bonell. And Qualey's music.

    I realised two things.
    After decades playing piano my fingers bend only like a piano player, guitarists fingers bend the other way too (the way your teacher stops you doing as a child).

    Lessons and a lot of concentrated time to learn the various keyboard positions are needed.

    I got to chapter 11 in the Noad book, this level:
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    @andyd thanks for all the background! Flamenco guitar is wonderful, isn't it!

    @AndyD said:

    Frederick Noad mostly, Solo Guitar Playing vols 1 & 2.

    OMG I think I still have those! They must be the most canonical for classical guitar!

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    • AdagioMA AdagioM

      We have 9? 10? guitars at our house. I have two, but only play my Taylor GS Mini. Mr. AM has 4 or 5 from when he was playing about 20 years go. And several of kiddo’s guitars still live with us; they live in a small apartment.

      I play cowboy chords so I can sing. I hate the F chord, so everything is transposed to key of D, G, or A. Capo from there! My singing trio doesn’t get together much any more since one moved away.

      There is definitely an opportunity for Swedish Death Cleaning here!

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      @AdagioM said:

      We have 9? 10? guitars at our house.

      that's kind of a lot! 😄

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      • AdagioMA AdagioM

        We have 9? 10? guitars at our house. I have two, but only play my Taylor GS Mini. Mr. AM has 4 or 5 from when he was playing about 20 years go. And several of kiddo’s guitars still live with us; they live in a small apartment.

        I play cowboy chords so I can sing. I hate the F chord, so everything is transposed to key of D, G, or A. Capo from there! My singing trio doesn’t get together much any more since one moved away.

        There is definitely an opportunity for Swedish Death Cleaning here!

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        @AdagioM

        Having jammed with a number of excellent bluegrass players in campgrounds after festivals, I’ve learned that most everyone plays using G chording and moves the capo up and down.

        G is described as “God’s own key” and He doesn’t mind if you move it around.

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          @AdagioM

          Having jammed with a number of excellent bluegrass players in campgrounds after festivals, I’ve learned that most everyone plays using G chording and moves the capo up and down.

          G is described as “God’s own key” and He doesn’t mind if you move it around.

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          @Steve-Miller Thanks. Have been going about it all wrong.

          Andy, I also have piano fingers I suppose. Is that why the guitar seems made for aliens?

          Wonder what percentage of guitars are played regularly.

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            @AdagioM

            Having jammed with a number of excellent bluegrass players in campgrounds after festivals, I’ve learned that most everyone plays using G chording and moves the capo up and down.

            G is described as “God’s own key” and He doesn’t mind if you move it around.

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            AdagioM
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            @Steve-Miller Three chords and the truth are all you need for a song! The capo is my friend.

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            • ShiroKuroS ShiroKuro

              @AdagioM said:

              We have 9? 10? guitars at our house.

              that's kind of a lot! 😄

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              @ShiroKuro I know! I’m only responsible for two of them. I should sell my Takamine; it’s really too big for me.

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              • AdagioMA AdagioM

                @ShiroKuro I know! I’m only responsible for two of them. I should sell my Takamine; it’s really too big for me.

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                @AdagioM oooh those are pretty!

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                  This was wow, 5 years ago now.

                  Link to video

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                    Very nice. Just how difficult is it to learn all the fret positions!
                    And fingernails...

                    on the first episode somebody demonstrated how, with good fingernails you could vary the sound produced half a dozen ways.
                    I tried to grow and maintain my right hand nails over some years, but DIY ruins them, gardening ruins them, and then there's the shortish length required to play piano. Superglue helped.

                    Ventosa viri restabit

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                      kluurs
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                      Of all the concerts I've heard, i put my hearing Andre Segovia's as my favorite. I have his signature on some music of Bach. He was amazing. Our audience in Chicago has a bad reputation for being noisy. When Segovia played, there was no sound with the exception of his plucking of the strings. No one breathed, coughed, moved, blinked, etc. Hi playing imprinted on my soul.

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                      • AndyDA AndyD

                        Very nice. Just how difficult is it to learn all the fret positions!
                        And fingernails...

                        on the first episode somebody demonstrated how, with good fingernails you could vary the sound produced half a dozen ways.
                        I tried to grow and maintain my right hand nails over some years, but DIY ruins them, gardening ruins them, and then there's the shortish length required to play piano. Superglue helped.

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                        @AndyD said:
                        fingernails...

                        That was another thing I quickly noticed, was that trying to continue both classical guitar and piano would be near impossible because one requires fingernails and with the other, they are totally in the way!

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