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  • wtgW wtg

    … the company behind its software goes under?

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/02/what-happens-to-a-car-when-the-company-behind-its-software-goes-under/

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    ShiroKuro
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    @wtg yeah, I don’t want a subscription for my car and I dont want something like this:

    some models won’t unlock at all unless a phone running the manufacturer’s app is within range.

    😑

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      My Tesla early adopted friend just went through this. There';s an auxiliary 12V battery. If it runs down you are screwed. You can't replace it because the Frunk release is operated by it. He was locked in for a while.

      This is not selling me on electric cars.

      “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
      ― Douglas Adams

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      • MikM Mik

        My Tesla early adopted friend just went through this. There';s an auxiliary 12V battery. If it runs down you are screwed. You can't replace it because the Frunk release is operated by it. He was locked in for a while.

        This is not selling me on electric cars.

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        ShiroKuro
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        @Mik said in What happens to a car when…:

        He was locked in for a while.

        Wait, do you mean he was locked inside his car??

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          Mik
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          Yep.

          “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
          ― Douglas Adams

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          • MikM Mik

            Yep.

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            ShiroKuro
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            @Mik OMG!!! What a ridiculous design flaw!

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              Bernard
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              Didn't read through many comments on the article, but of those I did, this one speaks to me:

              We keep making the mistake of thinking that high technology (especially software) belongs in everything. This was my attitude in my 20s and 30s, but decades later I finally have the wisdom to realize just how much tech can be a liability in an otherwise non-tech device.

              I don't care if others want to surround themselves with 'smart' (:rolleyes:) technology, but I don't want to be forced to give up what works for me, and that is more often than not, analog. I dread the end of my car lease in a few years because I'm not sure I'll have any options. This is what worries and ticks me off.

              The industrial revolution cheapened everything.

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              • B Bernard

                Didn't read through many comments on the article, but of those I did, this one speaks to me:

                We keep making the mistake of thinking that high technology (especially software) belongs in everything. This was my attitude in my 20s and 30s, but decades later I finally have the wisdom to realize just how much tech can be a liability in an otherwise non-tech device.

                I don't care if others want to surround themselves with 'smart' (:rolleyes:) technology, but I don't want to be forced to give up what works for me, and that is more often than not, analog. I dread the end of my car lease in a few years because I'm not sure I'll have any options. This is what worries and ticks me off.

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                ShiroKuro
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                @Bernard said in What happens to a car when…:

                but I don't want to be forced to give up what works for me, and that is more often than not, analog.

                This is basically where I'm at as well. I don't want to all my appliances embedded with smart tech. I don't need to have all my data (what I buy at the grocery store, when I run the washing machine...) flowing out of my house and into companies wanting to profit by knowing more about me.

                I dread the end of my car lease in a few years because I'm not sure I'll have any options.

                This as well. Our car is from 2015, works great and has no annoying tech in it. I hate to think about what we'll be confronted with when it's time to get a new car...

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                  wtg
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                  Something along these lines happened with my friend's 2nd gen Toyota Prius. Best as I remember it, her 12V battery ran down completely, rendering the key fob inoperable. Her doors were locked. She had just gotten the car and didn't know she needed to use the mechanical key that came with the car. It was a time when the cars were in great demand, and she had purchased it from a dealer in California who shipped it here to Illinois. The guy who delivered the car wasn't a dealer person, just the truck driver, so she didn't get the typical salesman spiel about her new car's features. I think she ended up calling a local dealer and they sorted things for her.

                  And another one...a neighbor called us and said the battery in their Prius fob had died and they couldn't get into their car. We drove over with a spare 2032 coin battery, replaced the dead one, and they were on their way.

                  Our Subaru is a 2016 and we just hit 18000 miles. It has a mechanical key, though I know it also has smart features for security. I should check and see if I can still get in the car and start it if the fob battery dies. I hope it's our last car because I don't want to figure out how to drive a new one....

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                    RealPlayer
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                    I hear some new bicycles have electronic shifting. Dead battery, no shifting.

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                      Rontuner
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                      All of the fobs (so far) that I've used have a hidden mechanical key that slides out. I've had to use mine a couple of times.

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                        Bernard
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                        I just back from grocery shopping and I'm reminded of a feature of this car that I really like: automatic headlight hi-lo beam switching.

                        The industrial revolution cheapened everything.

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                          Daniel
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                          Well, one of the reasons I'm buying the used car I am is because everything is "mechanical" and another is many parts that should be made of metal are and not made of plastic.

                          Also, no meaningful depreciation.

                          But really only because I like it.

                          I've always liked economy cars.

                          'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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                          • RontunerR Rontuner

                            All of the fobs (so far) that I've used have a hidden mechanical key that slides out. I've had to use mine a couple of times.

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                            @Rontuner said in What happens to a car when…:

                            All of the fobs (so far) that I've used have a hidden mechanical key that slides out. I've had to use mine a couple of times.

                            Remind me to tell the story of how I lost my new Audi's key in the sand on a remote Hawaii Island beach. Or don't. Lol.

                            'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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                            • B Bernard

                              I just back from grocery shopping and I'm reminded of a feature of this car that I really like: automatic headlight hi-lo beam switching.

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                              @Bernard said in What happens to a car when…:

                              automatic headlight hi-lo beam switching.

                              How does that work?

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                                @Bernard said in What happens to a car when…:

                                automatic headlight hi-lo beam switching.

                                How does that work?

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                                @ShiroKuro said in What happens to a car when…:

                                @Bernard said in What happens to a car when…:

                                automatic headlight hi-lo beam switching.

                                How does that work?

                                Hmmm… over the past two years I have noticed far more people leaving their high beams on until they are way closer than they should be, rendering me pretty much blind as the oncoming driver. Now I am wondering if those cars just have this new technology and they take too long (in my opinion) to see the oncoming car and switch?

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                                • ShiroKuroS ShiroKuro

                                  @Bernard said in What happens to a car when…:

                                  automatic headlight hi-lo beam switching.

                                  How does that work?

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                                  Steve Miller
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                                  @ShiroKuro

                                  There’s a sensor that senses how much ambient light there is and distance from other cars.

                                  Sharon’s car has the feature and it works very well!

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                                    I didn't notice mine had that until I was away from city lights on a vacation. Mine works when they are in "auto" mode and then the brights are turned on. They dimmed just about when I would choose to do the same as I sensed a car coming over an approaching hill.

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                                      My small car will have touchscreen that is for a back up camera and to connect your phone.

                                      So Google can give you speaking directions, you can play music, and make calls.

                                      I mean it connects to your phone so I assume it has those features.

                                      That's it. I don't think there's any other remarkable tech.

                                      I wouldn't mind having an Audi A3 with the latest tech and safety features or a new Toyota Camry with them, either the beautiful blue they have now with leather interior or a white one with red leather interior (alas, I'll never have my white exterior, red leather interior car).

                                      They're not options and I'm good with that.

                                      Small car, late model, efficient, durable, and stealth is what I want most at this stage in life.

                                      'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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                                        CHAS
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                                        If you don't know how to replace the key fob battery learn how now.
                                        Replacing mine it complex and far from obvious. Found a video on Youtube that unlocked the puzzle.

                                        "If you're looking for sympathy, you'll find it between s**t and syphilis in the dictionary."-David Sedaris

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                                          We bought our Subaru used, and both key fobs needed batteries a few months ago. I bought new batteries, expecting to replace them myself. But although the instructions were pretty clear, inserting the screwdriver to open the case was an issue. The plastic housing is so flimsy, it seemed it would crack easily. I took it to the local Subaru service place, and the guy at the counter inserted my batteries for free. Yay.

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