Keep it up Democrats in Congress ...
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You’re ready to leave the party when 7 out of 213 democrats disagree with you mostly about tactics? That’s 3% of the dems in Congress.
It seems unlikely that one could expect a national party to agree with them with more than 97% fidelity on pretty much any issue AND the right approach to achieving victory on it.
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When an executive branch without morals is able to decide which laws to enforce and which to ignore (release the files), it essentially means that no laws really exist. It is a plan 30 or more years in the making as the hard right/money figured out how to manipulate much of the public by burrowing into many of America's institutions - media, church, state and local government and the courts. They finally achieved the 'perfect storm' with enough power and votes along with most of the courts to keep the elected Dems unable to do much of anything through traditional channels.
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We have to rid ourselves of the pestilence that is running this country. The only option is to vote blue. The only option. I used to be one who though both parties were the same. Until 2016. When I voted for Hillary, which is something I never thought possible. Our current destroyer of our country made me do it and I would do it again to try to prevent someone like him getting elected anywhere in the government. The republican party has proven over the past 10 years to be incapable of doing anything correct for the people of this country. Not so the democrats. We wouldn't even have the ACA without the democratic party. And now we don't have it because of the republican party.
I know the democrats are not perfect. Nothing in this world is perfect. But at least they would not be doing 1/100th of the crap that the republicans have done to destroy this country.
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I think most every democrat agrees there’s no higher priority than to defang Trump. That’s going to happen in the midterms if at all. The optimal strategy is therefore one that make taking the house and senate most likely. Everything else is preening.
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You’re ready to leave the party when 7 out of 213 democrats disagree with you mostly about tactics? That’s 3% of the dems in Congress.
It seems unlikely that one could expect a national party to agree with them with more than 97% fidelity on pretty much any issue AND the right approach to achieving victory on it.
@jon-nyc No. And good point. However, "pretty much any issue" misses the mark. This isn't just any issue. Government sponsored murder and kidnapping--that will only escalate. Geeze. It's easy to see, now that we're living through it, how Hitler was able to do what he did. The oligarchs fund the regime, the capitalists cower and crawl, men and women of standing fall over themselves placating a tyrant.
The issue is party leadership. Jeffries is acting as if the time we are living in is the same as any other. These are extraordinary times and they call for extraordinary measures. If he can't muster the where with all to even try to get his party coalesced (the article states he had no intention of doing so) around the most appalling abuses against American citizens, he needs to go. And one measure of anyone running for Congress is whether or not they continue to support the "leadership" of Jeffries and Schumer, If so, they won't get my support.
As for leaving the party, yes, a real possibility. But not just over this unbelievable shitshow.
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We have to rid ourselves of the pestilence that is running this country. The only option is to vote blue. The only option. I used to be one who though both parties were the same. Until 2016. When I voted for Hillary, which is something I never thought possible. Our current destroyer of our country made me do it and I would do it again to try to prevent someone like him getting elected anywhere in the government. The republican party has proven over the past 10 years to be incapable of doing anything correct for the people of this country. Not so the democrats. We wouldn't even have the ACA without the democratic party. And now we don't have it because of the republican party.
I know the democrats are not perfect. Nothing in this world is perfect. But at least they would not be doing 1/100th of the crap that the republicans have done to destroy this country.
@Mark It is certainly true that the Democrats have the right intentions, at least on paper. And it's also true that no party is perfect.
But I, for one, am not seeking perfection. I am looking for a fight. Time and again, in the last year, we've seen weak kneed responses from Jeffries and Schumer. They are not up to the task.
Re, ACA. The ACA never had a public option because of a Democrat (Joe Lieberman) who was beholden to the same interests as the other side of the aisle.
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Don't bring a knife to a gunfight.
Perhaps they realize that there really isn't much they can do in this situation - as much as we would like to think otherwise. Cut funding? When has that stopped the current Republicans from just taking money from somewhere else? Make laws? To an administration that ignores most every law that doesn't help them?No, the only hope (slim though it may be with tampering of votes) is to get enough folks in the house and senate to actually take their co-equal branch of government seriously. I would bet there are many that are tangled in the pedo rings and are being blackmailed..
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@Mark It is certainly true that the Democrats have the right intentions, at least on paper. And it's also true that no party is perfect.
But I, for one, am not seeking perfection. I am looking for a fight. Time and again, in the last year, we've seen weak kneed responses from Jeffries and Schumer. They are not up to the task.
Re, ACA. The ACA never had a public option because of a Democrat (Joe Lieberman) who was beholden to the same interests as the other side of the aisle.
@Bernard said in Keep it up Democrats in Congress ...:
@Mark It is certainly true that the Democrats have the right intentions, at least on paper. And it's also true that no party is perfect.
But I, for one, am not seeking perfection. I am looking for a fight. Time and again, in the last year, we've seen weak kneed responses from Jeffries and Schumer. They are not up to the task.
Re, ACA. The ACA never had a public option because of a Democrat (Joe Lieberman) who was beholden to the same interests as the other side of the aisle.
@Bernard said in Keep it up Democrats in Congress ...:
@Mark It is certainly true that the Democrats have the right intentions, at least on paper. And it's also true that no party is perfect.
But I, for one, am not seeking perfection. I am looking for a fight. Time and again, in the last year, we've seen weak kneed responses from Jeffries and Schumer. They are not up to the task.
Re, ACA. The ACA never had a public option because of a Democrat (Joe Lieberman) who was beholden to the same interests as the other side of the aisle.
This is true. If you're going to play the fall guy then of course you're going to lose. The Democrats were supposed to be a counter-weight. What counter-weight have they been? They might be trying (some of them) but they are not doing a good job.
On the other hand, I was wrong. Looking back, vote blue no matter who was the best. Yes, I was wrong about Trump.
I've never been as wrong in my life.
I mean, really, I have a strong political science background, and I lost the plot.
I don't think anyone expects a perfect world, but the phrase-- "Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition."-- exists for a reason.
In any case, what a horrific state of affairs.
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I think most every democrat agrees there’s no higher priority than to defang Trump. That’s going to happen in the midterms if at all. The optimal strategy is therefore one that make taking the house and senate most likely. Everything else is preening.
@jon-nyc said in Keep it up Democrats in Congress ...:
I think most every democrat agrees there’s no higher priority than to defang Trump. That’s going to happen in the midterms if at all. The optimal strategy is therefore one that make taking the house and senate most likely. Everything else is preening.
I'm in board.
