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A brief history of nutrition recommendations

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    Daniel
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    Yes. They were said to have cholesterol and it would be the death of you. Now they're a standard bearer for what people need to buy at the grocery store vs how much they cost.

    'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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      jon-nyc
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      I’ve always found it weird all the quibbling about the relative benefits and harms of various natural foods. This seems like rearranging deck chairs on the titanic compared to all the pure junk in the standard American diet and the sedentariness of the average American lifestyle.

      It’s like arguing about seed oils while ignoring the fact that you smoke 2 packs of Marlboro reds a day.

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        Mik
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        Yep. Eat whole foods, perimeter shop, keep calories reasonable, avoid processed foods, an excess of sodium and sugar. It's really not that hard.

        “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
        ― Douglas Adams

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          Steve Miller
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          The only problem I have with govt food guidelines is that they’re used to develop things like school lunch programs. Hilarity ensues!

          What they dont use them for is selecting what you can buy with food stamps. There is no way soda pop should be on that list.

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            Mik
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            Soda, Cheetos, sugary cereals, the list of what should not be eligible is endless. I suspect the food and grocer companies have cried about how hard it would be to establish and maintain that.

            “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
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              Yeah and oddly there’s a contingent who believes we shouldn’t have a paternalistic attitude toward the poor even though those same people back paternalistic policies for citizenry as a whole.

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                The only problem I have with govt food guidelines is that they’re used to develop things like school lunch programs. Hilarity ensues!

                What they dont use them for is selecting what you can buy with food stamps. There is no way soda pop should be on that list.

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                @Steve-Miller said in A brief history of nutrition recommendations:

                The only problem I have with govt food guidelines is that they’re used to develop things like school lunch programs. Hilarity ensues!

                What they dont use them for is selecting what you can buy with food stamps. There is no way soda pop should be on that list.

                It's not in Florida along with candy bakery items processed foods (whatever that means) starting in February.

                'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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                  Daniel
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                  Overhead Not Me say he has a cold and his voice sounds like it. So am eating one organic orange per day before I have to switch to supplements.

                  I didn't know but should have remembered 3 lbs of organic oranges equals three big oranges. Yikes.

                  I keep thinking about fasting (yeah, I know it's controversial) but I have lacked the will power so far.

                  All food prices are ridiculous. Not eating processed foods is an exorbitant proposition.

                  I don't think cost and availability (accessibility) entered Kennedy's mind.

                  'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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                    Mik
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                    Learn to love eggs, pasta and rice. Those things with tomato sauces, garlic and oil, a little cheese have endless variations.

                    “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
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                      Daniel
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                      Sounds good to me! I love everything on that list except eggs and rice and I like them perfectly fine.

                      I was never good at grocery shopping or cooking as I've said.

                      'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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                        Mik
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                        Great way to eat healthy on the cheap. You cannot beat eggs for low cost protein. Eighteen count is nine days of entrees for $3.

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                          Interesting piece about how some foods we eat enhance the nutritional value of others.

                          https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20260116-black-pepper-and-olive-oil-the-ingredients-that-super-charge-the-nutrients-you-get-from-food

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