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  • wtgW Offline
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    His hubris is approaching Hitleresque/Putinesque levels.

    President Donald Trump says the U.S. needs Greenland for national security, ostensibly to counter Russia and China. But Trump’s interest in the sparsely populated island appears to be as much about hemispheric dominance as homeland defense.

    According to two people familiar with private high-level discussions and granted anonymity to share their details, the White House has shown little interest in an overture last year from Denmark’s prime minister offering the U.S. the option to increase its military presence in Greenland, where it already operates a base and has long deployed troops at liberty.

    “The option of more U.S. military presence has been on the table,” said one of the people, a European defense official. “The White House is not interested.”

    The second person, an American in frequent contact with the administration and European officials, said that most of what Trump says he wants out of Greenland — access to investment resources like critical minerals, more troops and military bases, better intelligence sharing — could be easily accomplished by negotiating directly with Denmark, a steadfast ally.

    “The problem is that Trump has gotten into his head that the ‘Donroe Doctrine’ is his thing,” the second person said. “He’s now very focused on this. And it’s hard to come to an agreement with the Danes when Trump thinks he can just take it.”

    https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/06/trump-says-his-greenland-fixation-is-about-national-security-europeans-are-skeptical-00712149

    I'm thinking DJT presses for a swap. He threatens to stop support of Ukraine unless he gets Greenland. Of course he's already negotiated for access to Ukraine's vast resources, but the US would be facing off with Russia in order to access those. Just take Greenland and move on.

    When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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      Daniel
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      Attack a steadfast NATO ally. Why not?

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      • wtgW Offline
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        4 steps to getting Greenland.

        https://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-greenland-easy-steps-nato-policy-deal-military/

        When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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          jon-nyc
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          The mother of all ICE raids.

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            Yeah, I am under the impression that Greenland has lots of ice.

            On to branding:
            Rename "Greenland" to "Trumpland," create a new chapter for "The Trump Purchase" in the history books -- bigger than the Louisiana Purchase at 828,000 sq. miles, Greenland has 836,000 sq. miles.

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              They met today and agreed to disagree. A working group is being formed.

              https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/14/denmark-greenland-trump-white-house.html

              When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                https://www.theatlantic.com/national-security/2026/01/denmark-army-greenland-arctic-trump/685612/

                This, a military defense, makes more sense to me than attempting diplomacy with this gang.

                I'm no expert on the art of diplomacy, but could it be that people known to be lightweight sycophants and pathological liars would have any actual desire, but especially any actual ability, to conduct diplomatic negotiations?

                My grandfather, who was a career NCO in the Air Force, and served in three wars starting with WWII, must be rolling in his grave. He was stationed in Greenland for a year during WWII.

                I'm glad my grandparents didn't have to witness this state of affairs, 9/11, and everything that has happened between them and now.

                My grandmother was a Democrat and a realist. she would have dealt with all of it better than my grandfather. Her life was divided between being a military wife, raising three children, and myself to an extent, due to exigent circumstances, moving her family around the world, and finally keeping a house and working a job in the private sector with a 20 year vesting.

                But my grandfather, in addition to his family responsibilities, devoted his life to the service of his country. He was patriotic to the core. I know he would have been stoic about all of it, but none of this would have made the least bit of sense to him, and I think it would have broken his heart.

                Full disclosure-- I couldn't and didn't read this entire article. $79.00 for a subscription to The Atlantic isn't something I can afford.

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                  https://www.theatlantic.com/national-security/2026/01/denmark-army-greenland-arctic-trump/685612/

                  This, a military defense, makes more sense to me than attempting diplomacy with this gang.

                  I'm no expert on the art of diplomacy, but could it be that people known to be lightweight sycophants and pathological liars would have any actual desire, but especially any actual ability, to conduct diplomatic negotiations?

                  My grandfather, who was a career NCO in the Air Force, and served in three wars starting with WWII, must be rolling in his grave. He was stationed in Greenland for a year during WWII.

                  I'm glad my grandparents didn't have to witness this state of affairs, 9/11, and everything that has happened between them and now.

                  My grandmother was a Democrat and a realist. she would have dealt with all of it better than my grandfather. Her life was divided between being a military wife, raising three children, and myself to an extent, due to exigent circumstances, moving her family around the world, and finally keeping a house and working a job in the private sector with a 20 year vesting.

                  But my grandfather, in addition to his family responsibilities, devoted his life to the service of his country. He was patriotic to the core. I know he would have been stoic about all of it, but none of this would have made the least bit of sense to him, and I think it would have broken his heart.

                  Full disclosure-- I couldn't and didn't read this entire article. $79.00 for a subscription to The Atlantic isn't something I can afford.

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                  said in So about Greenland:

                  https://www.theatlantic.com/national-security/2026/01/denmark-army-greenland-arctic-trump/685612/

                  This, a military defense, makes more sense to me than attempting diplomacy with this gang.

                  I'm no expert on the art of diplomacy, but could it be that people known to be lightweight sycophants and pathological liars would have any actual desire, but especially any actual ability, to conduct diplomatic negotiations?

                  My grandfather, who was a career NCO in the Air Force, and served in three wars starting with WWII, must be rolling in his grave. He was stationed in Greenland for a year during WWII.

                  I'm glad my grandparents didn't have to witness this state of affairs, 9/11, and everything that has happened between them and now.

                  My grandmother was a Democrat and a realist. she would have dealt with all of it better than my grandfather. Her life was divided between being a military wife, raising three children, and myself to an extent, due to exigent circumstances, moving her family around the world, and finally keeping a house and working a job in the private sector with a 20 year vesting.

                  But my grandfather, in addition to his family responsibilities, devoted his life to the service of his country. He was patriotic to the core. I know he would have been stoic about all of it, but none of this would have made the least bit of sense to him, and I think it would have broken his heart.

                  Full disclosure-- I couldn't and didn't read this entire article. $80 for a subscription to The Atlantic isn't something I can afford.

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                    Here's a non-paywall version of the article:

                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/denmark-s-army-chief-says-he-s-ready-to-defend-greenland/ar-AA1Udrfo

                    When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                      I like how you do that. I'll read it now!

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                      • wtgW Offline
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                        wtg
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                        I just do a search for the title of the article. Sometimes I get lucky and there's a non-paywall version on MSN or Yahoo.

                        When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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