Iran
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https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/06/21/world/iran-israel-trump
Trump announced the United States had struck Fordo, Iran鈥檚 heavily fortified nuclear facilities, as well as two other sites.
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Well, Mik, looks like I was right and you weren't...
Trump has thrown the dice. He risks a significant rupture within his base over this.
If "I" was in charge, I would be telling Iran that we're taking out Fordo and nothing else. React and we'll take out other stuff. Why don't we talk now.
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From BBC News:
Apparently the Iranians acknowledged that the sites were hit. But that they had been evacuated and fissile materials were moved out a long time ago, so the bombings were ineffective.
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/ckg3rzj8emjt
Hard to tell who is lying.
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As soon as Trump gave a two week warning I filled both cars with petrol (much good that it does
) thinking what choice will Iran & Israel give him... it will be sooner.Iran will respond. Always does. Question is, what ordnance do have they remaining and how.
And if anything was removed from those sites the US will know. They'd know what time I cut the lawn yesterday and what I did with the cuttings if they wanted to
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He's gone off the deep end. Glad the neocons including Republicans and Democrats got their way after decades of trying./ Sarcasm
Did they listen to the intelligence? No. Did they listen to the war criminal Netanyahu (again!)? Yes. Will this war be a disaster like all the previous wars going back to Vietnam? Yes.
What a sorry world we live in.
Let's risk blowing it all up and making it uninhabitable. I'm sure Elon will take us to Mars in his spaceships and if we're lucky he'll let us drive a rust bucket truck. /Sarcasm
This has been planned for decades.
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Link to video
"Don't let facts get in your way."
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Good discussion on Fareed's show this morning. Head of the IAEA group that was in Iran, Richard Haas, and James Stavridis. The IAEA guy said it's impossible to know how much damage there is until someone gets a closer look.
Will post transcript when it becomes available.
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The latest conspiracy theory is Trump is be blackmailed by Epstein Island information and most of this was theater with the Iranians being forwarded. This is actually from a good source but I had to stop listening to it because I had things that needed to be done. Let's say, hypothetically speaking, this conspiracy theory happens to contain the truth. It would still mean this situation is messed up AF.
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If you use nuclear power for energy you need 5% enriched uranium. Not 60% enriched which Iran admits having, or greater. Hidden deep underground and defended by the IRGuard.
The Iranian nuclear weapons program was real, and had one aim. Influence, power. The spread of their Islam, the spread of their theocracy over the whole world.
The Iranians have for over two decades been arming their proxies to this end, and IMO they could not be allowed to have nuclear weapon capabilities.
Imagine Iran giving portable nuclear bombs to its proxy fighters.Pre-emptive self defence is fully justified.
Congratulations USA on this mission.
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The latest conspiracy theory is Trump is be blackmailed by Epstein Island information and most of this was theater with the Iranians being forwarded. This is actually from a good source but I had to stop listening to it because I had things that needed to be done. Let's say, hypothetically speaking, this conspiracy theory happens to contain the truth. It would still mean this situation is messed up AF.
said in Iran:
Link to videoThe latest conspiracy theory is Trump is be blackmailed by Epstein Island information and most of this was theater with the Iranians being forwarded. This is actually from a good source but I had to stop listening to it because I had things that needed to be done. Let's say, hypothetically speaking, this conspiracy theory happens to contain the truth. It would still mean this situation is messed up AF.
I watch this channel. I like the narrator (and the narration).
This is 20 minutes. I finished the last 10 minutes of it.
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He really needs to shut up.
I have zero confidence in his decision making skills. He's treating the world like a game of Risk, or another version of The Apprentice. All a game to him and he always wants to be a "winner", however he defines that in his tiny little pea brain.
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U.S. officials say that strikes conducted on three key Iranian nuclear sites have devastated its nuclear program, but independent experts analyzing commercial satellite imagery say the nation's long-running nuclear enterprise is far from destroyed.
"At the end of the day there are some really important things that haven't been hit," says Jeffrey Lewis, a professor at the Middlebury Institute of International Studies at Monterey, who tracks Iran's nuclear facilities. "If this ends here, it's a really incomplete strike."
In particular Lewis says the strike doesn't seem to have touched Iran's stocks of highly enriched uranium.
"Today, it still has that material and we still don't know where it is," he says.
"I think you have to assume that significant amounts of this enriched uranium still exist, so this is not over by any means," agrees David Albright, the president of the Institute for Science and International Security, which has closely tracked Iran's nuclear program for years.
The independent assessments stand in stark contrast to congratulatory statements from the Trump Administration in the wake of the strikes.
With pics:
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I'd expect the Israelis to actively continue to degrade Iran's nuclear weapons facilities.
As for peace, its not like you've just made a new enemy. Iran shouts Death to America and intentionally incites violence when burning your flag.
How then to believe Iranian words when spoken in Western civilised arenas such as the UN.
