Schumer finally speaks up
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I don't agree it was a "forceful case." It was closer to word salad than to a forceful case.
Democratic politicians wonder why they don't get support from their constituencies. What's to support?
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AOC may be getting ready to unseat Schumer. I will help a little.
Schumer is the reason Al Franken was booted.@CHAS said in Schumer finally speaks up:
AOC may be getting ready to unseat Schumer. I will help a little.
Schumer is the reason Al Franken was booted.Yeah, Schumer and Gillibrand, and she's on board w/ Schumer on the CR. What a big dissappointment she turned out to be.
Sadly, I have a hard time imagining AOC being able to carry NY State, it's a whole other ballgame to NYC. But if she goes for it, I'll be tempted to help as well.
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Schumer's idiotic decision is going to create a really bad schism in the party.
From Nancy Pelosi:
“Donald Trump and Elon Musk have offered the Congress a false choice between a government shutdown or a blank check that makes a devastating assault on the well-being of working families across America,” Speaker Emerita Nancy Pelosi said in a statement. “Let’s be clear: neither is a good option for the American people. But this false choice that some are buying instead of fighting is unacceptable.”
“Democratic senators should listen to the women,” she continued. “Appropriations leaders Rosa DeLauro and Patty Murray have eloquently presented the case that we must have a better choice: a four-week funding extension to keep government open and negotiate a bipartisan agreement. America has experienced a Trump shutdown before – but this damaging legislation only makes matters worse. Democrats must not buy into this false choice. We must fight back for a better way. Listen to the women, For The People.”
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Schumer is clearly bought and paid for. He was parroting Republican talking points about "waste, fraud, and abuse," in Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, the other day.
In fact, these programs have intricate auditing systems and a police force (yes, police) as it stands. The police are a unit who spy on Social Security recipients and bring cases against them. This isn't well known information but you can research it easily enough.
The real reason for this BS is the oligarchy wants the entire Social Security Act privatized or eliminated.
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https://www.npr.org/2025/03/13/nx-s1-5327600/house-democrats-outrage-spending
When you've lost the New Democrats...
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What a ********.
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Here's Trump using the exact rhetoric Schumer used...
https://www.axios.com/2025/03/14/trump-medicaid-reconciliation-taxes-border
I saw Schumer also talking about, "waste, fraud, and abuse."
These programs don't have a lot of waste, fraud, or abuse.
I wish Schumer and Pelosi would resign.
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Thought experiment. The government shuts down. Then what? Who makes the choices in the current government what gets funded, what stays shut down? Who gets blamed in Right wing media for the shutdown?
The pain of the Republican choices need to filter down to the voters that supported them for anything to change...
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Indeed. At least now the GOP owns the whole mess. Completely.
Schumer's NYT op-ed. Gift link.
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Circumstantial evidence that he's also on the take. We need people in Congress who can't be bought.
@pique said in Schumer finally speaks up:
Circumstantial evidence that he's also on the take. We need people in Congress who can't be bought.
I’m going to guess he got told by members of his caucus that they weren’t going to vote against it, and he didn’t want to be against it and lose the vote anyway.
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His editorial made me want to vomit.
He is the Senate minority leader. He is as much a part of the government as any other politician in "the government."
He rationalizes his vote and virtually declares Trump a king in only a few sentences.
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I'd like to read the NYT editorial written by the group who says they used to be the actual watchdogs of government agencies and were fired if anyone kindly has the link.
I saw the headline and made a mental note of it but I can't find the link now.
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Indeed. At least now the GOP owns the whole mess. Completely.
Schumer's NYT op-ed. Gift link.
@wtg said in Schumer finally speaks up:
Indeed. At least now the GOP owns the whole mess. Completely.
I cannot agree with the word "now". They already owned it completey. They control all three branches of government.
For caving into a partisan bill without a fight, the Democrats now share some degree of ownership of what's happening.
What's more it is horribly dishonest to vote for cloture then vote against the bill as Schumer, and I think 7 others did. What a charade.
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Yes, they certainly do control all three branches. But right now, we are the Keystone Kops compared to them. We have no coherent message and we are powerless. They have proven time and time again that they are much better at spin and messaging than the Dems are.
If the Dems had forced a shutdown, the first thing the GOP would have done is blamed whatever bad things happened, shutdown or otherwise, on the Democrats. That's the headline that would have dominated all the news cycles. They make stuff up all the time. Why stop now? Meanwhile, Musk would march on and do his thing.
The only positive I see in this is we didn't stand in their way. We can only hope they collapse spectacularly. And quickly.
Play it out. What would have happened if we had forced the shutdown? Besides standing up to them, how would it have benefitted our cause? Can we even identify what our cause/endgame is?
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You are correct that the Republicans would have tried to blame the Democrats but I'm not convinced that would have gained as much traction as some think. I think a lot of people are starting see what they voted for with Trump.
I consider not standing in their way a huge negative. It's the crux of the matter. The problem isn't just Trump, it's the whole republican congress who are not lifting a #*$^ finger to rein him in. Absolutely nothing. And they presented the Democrats with a completely partisan CR that does nothing to address the havoc Trump is wreaking on on the nation. And Schumer rolled over and said, Oh Ok, do as you please.
I think by standing up to Trump and the brain dead republicans the Democrats would have turned some heads and helped their standing among too many who think they are weak and always cave. Schumer just gave them more proof what a pushover the party is.
I don't know what would have happened if we had forced the shutdown, and it scares me to think of it, but when I hear from several people whose opinions I value, that caving was a mistake (J Rubin, R Reich, N Pelosi, etc. etc. there's a lot of them.) I'm going to go with them. Did we see Adam Schiff's video here? It's worth a watch.
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Adam Schiff...
Link to video
