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  • wtgW wtg

    Same here with lemon. I basically never had any and went to having a couple of afternoon cups of decaf tea with honey and lemon. Tipping point.

    Decaf coffee may be tolerable even if you have GERD.

    https://www.livestrong.com/article/511107-how-to-neutralize-the-acid-in-coffee/

    The thing to keep in mind that the diet guidelines are just guidelines. Some things on the list may be a trigger for Mr SK, and he may be totally fine eating things that are on the list.

    FWIW, I still have a cup of half-caff in the morning. It's the one obvious thing on the GERD diet no-nos that I haven't given up. If I weren't improving, I would definitely be switching to decaf, or even eliminating any coffee from my diet, but I think I'm good for now. Maybe the lemon was Mr SK's tipping point, too, and if his system has a reprieve, it may recover.

    I hesitated initially posting about my minor health issue, but I thought there might be people here who might want to know about the alginates. Now I feel better about the thread, as it may be of some value to someone else!

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    @wtg said in A previously unknown (to me) form of reflux:

    I hesitated initially posting about my minor health issue, but I thought there might be people here who might want to know about the alginates. Now I feel better about the thread, as it may be of some value to someone else!

    Absolutely!!! I ordered that canadian gaviscon last night.

    And even though I "knew" that citrus is acidic, and I knew that Mr SK was doing this lemon water thing, I knew even thought about the connection to reflux.

    So THANK YOU!!!!!

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      👍 Serendipity, eh?

      Be sure to read the bulletin I just posted. It is hands down the best summary I've read so far, and being from the American Academy of Otolaryngology–Head and Neck Surgery, it carries a lot of credibility in my book as being solid medical information.

      The Reflux Gourmet product (discussed in the link) is available, too. People had mixed reactions to the taste, and it's not cheap, either. I went with the Canadian Gaviscon tablets and have been happy with the results, but if I couldn't get them I'd definitely check out the Reflux Gourmet.

      https://refluxgourmet.com/

      I hadn't heard about RefluxRaft, and that is another alternative. Doesn't get great review on Amazon, though.

      https://refluxraft.com/

      When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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        And just a heads up...be sure to have Mr SK chew up the tablet really well before swallowing it. Won't do anything if it's in chunks! Also, should avoid food and drink for a couple of hours afterward. The raft can stay in place until the food in the stomach has mostly digested.

        When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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          Thanks!

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            Gaviscon brand is expensive here in the UK. Luckily Asda, Tesco, Morrisons etc. sell their own versions at half the price.

            Whether any or all of these have effects on body salt balances I don't know; a while back I recall magnesium trisilicate being the one medically recommended.
            Seems to be rarely available here, mostly in tablet form, and you need to ask for it.

            Gaviscon is everywhere!

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              @wtg said in A previously unknown (to me) form of reflux:

              I hesitated initially posting about my minor health issue, but I thought there might be people here who might want to know about the alginates. Now I feel better about the thread, as it may be of some value to someone else!

              Absolutely!!! I ordered that canadian gaviscon last night.

              And even though I "knew" that citrus is acidic, and I knew that Mr SK was doing this lemon water thing, I knew even thought about the connection to reflux.

              So THANK YOU!!!!!

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              @ShiroKuro I get heartburn in the late summer. Finally figured out that it’s all the lovely tomatoes coming ripe that are so delicious…and acidic!

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                @AdagioM isn't that the worst! Something so yummy resulting in such an unhappy tummy!

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                  I sent this thread to Mr. AM, who found it very interesting. He checked on drug interactions with Gaviscon, and there were several for things he takes. Double check before you decide to buy. He also mentioned problems with citrus fruits and juices, so be aware of that, too.

                  Good luck to all y’all refluxers!

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                    We make less acid as we age. A Naturopath told me to try a tablespoon of vinegar before meals. I drink half a glass of not cold water with the meal, more water would dilute the acid. I have been doing much better since I started it. Once in a while I take a Gaviscon with alginate. Otherwise I take apple cider vinegar or a betaine hydrochloride tablet before every meal. Have been riding a bicycle and getting out and doing things since I started the practice.

                    “I’m at an age when remembering something right away is as good as an orgasm.”—Gloria Steinem to Julia Louis-Dreyfus on Wiser Than Me

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                      I called Gaviscon Canada today. I try to limit sodium and wanted to have a better idea of how much I might be taking in while I'm taking the Canadian Gaviscon. I knew there was some sodium bicarbonate in the tablets but the amount wasn't listed on the label, so I couldn't calculate an approximate sodium content.

                      Final answer:

                      Regular strength: 22.6 mg sodium per tablet
                      Extra strength: 29.95 mg
                      Max Relief: 34 mg

                      I can live with those numbers with the number of tablets I'm using daily.

                      I asked why the alginate products aren't available in the US. He said that the US Gaviscon is made by a company called Haleon, and that the Canadian Gaviscon is produced by a completely separate company that is only licensed to sell and market in Canada.

                      I had looked at the various Gaviscon products that show up on various sites. They all have different formulas. Some have aluminum or magnesium, some have potassium carbonate instead of sodium carbonate, and I saw different sweeteners, too. Sugar, aspartame, and saccharin.

                      With these GI and ENT docs developing their own alginate product lines, I wonder how long it will take Haleon to launch one here. Clearly there seems to be a market developing for it. The US Gaviscon does list alginic acid as an inactive ingredient in their product but from the anecdotal stories I've heard, people haven't had as good results with the US product because there isn't enough of it to form a good raft. Plus the US product has magnesium and aluminum and people often try to avoid aluminum.

                      Your useless facts for the day!

                      When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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