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    Article from 2018; Palmer died in September 2016.

    It would presumptuous for me to speculate regarding what Palmer would think about the man who currently occupies the White House. So I asked someone who knew Arnold as well as anyone still alive: his older daughter, Peg, who was born in the mid-1950s before her father rose to prominence.

    "My dad was a complicated person," Peg told me when I asked the question last week. "He grew up poor and became rich. He was a Goldwater Republican and believed in the Republican party. He and I learned not to discuss politics together. We saw things very differently, and there was no sense in fighting about it. Apart from our general political differences, he felt I didn't understand how hard it had been for him to make his fortune and the compromises he'd had to make to be successful and stay successful, not just in golf but in the business world. It wasn't as easy as it looked."

    As for Trump, Peg recalled, "My dad had dealings with him over the years at some charity fundraisers and a few other events that had to do with Trump's golf courses. My dad cherished golf and he appreciated Trump's support for the game. Trump looked up to my dad, so I suspect he was on his best behavior when they were together. But in the campaign, my dad saw a different side of him."

    "My dad didn't like people who act like they're better than other people," Peg continued. "He didn't like it when people were nasty and rude. He didn't like it when someone was disrespectful to someone else. My dad had no patience for people who demean other people in public. He had no patience for people who are dishonest and cheat. My dad was disciplined. He wanted to be a good role model. He was appalled by Trump's lack of civility and what he began to see as Trump's lack of character."

    "One moment stands out in my mind," Peg recounted. "My dad and I were at home in Latrobe. He died in September, so this was before the election. The television was on. Trump was talking. And my dad made a sound of disgust — like 'uck' or 'ugg' — like he couldn't believe the arrogance and crudeness of this man who was the nominee of the political party that he believed in. Then he said, 'He's not as smart as we thought he was,' " and walked out of the room. What would my dad think of Donald Trump today? I think he'd cringe."

    https://www.sportingnews.com/us/golf/news/what-would-arnold-palmer-think-of-donald-trump-today/efcnlb7o79wb1r7ne4ummnjld

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      Good grief.

      “I’m at an age when remembering something right away is as good as an orgasm.”—Gloria Steinem to Julia Louis-Dreyfus on Wiser Than Me

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        One of the late golf legend Arnold Palmer’s daughters calls Donald Trump’s references to her father’s genitalia “a poor choice of approaches” to honoring his memory, adding that she wasn’t upset by the remarks.

        “There’s nothing much to say. I’m not really upset,” Peg Palmer Wears, 68, told The Associated Press in an interview on Sunday. “I think it was a poor choice of approaches to remembering my father, but what are you going to do?”

        https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-arnold-palmer-rally-comments-dde882b5841a7f5ed7ffd0f306ddf732

        When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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          Link to video

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            @Axtremus LOL

            “I’m at an age when remembering something right away is as good as an orgasm.”—Gloria Steinem to Julia Louis-Dreyfus on Wiser Than Me

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                  Isn't she?

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                    Maybe Trump had been dreaming of it in his tiny hands 😆

                    What is certain, golfers finish at different times and don't shower together.

                    When he (hopefully) loses please keep him, he's got too many years of dotage still in him with which to ruin Scotland.

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                      I told you all a long time ago my advice. My advice was to stop focusing on the Republicans so much and to focus a lot more on the Democrats.

                      We got weak to non-existent policies with Democrat because we didn't focus on what should be traditional (are traditional) Democratic achievements and values in domestic policy, and having demanded practically nothing and having received as much, we will be the ones to blame it Harris loses, not a man who has not been in office for four years, not Jill Stein, not anyone else.

                      I also said the administration's foreign policy is in your face duplicitous, frankly horrendously bloody, and couldn't be better designed to write off multiple core Democratic constituencies as if had been done by design.

                      Will laughing at Trump be as much fun if Harris loses? I would have guessed no but since it's been happening non-stop for the four years he was in office followed by the four years when he wasn't I'm going to have to place my bet at yes.

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