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  • wtgW Offline
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    wrote on last edited by wtg
    #1

    The 5 year old who was taken by ICE with his dad. DHS says the mother wouldn't take him and the father said he wanted the boy to go with him.

    The mom fills in a few key details, including that they were in the US legally under a Biden program that was rescinded by the orange man:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mother-5-year-old-taken-ice-immigration-agents-use-son-bait-rcna256729

    The ruling from the judge:

    A 5-year-old boy and his father must be released by Tuesday from the Texas center where they’ve been held after being detained by immigration officers in Minnesota, a federal judge ordered Saturday in a ruling that harshly criticized the Trump administration’s approach to enforcement.

    Images of Liam Conejo Ramos, wearing a bunny hat and Spider-Man backpack, being surrounded by Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers sparked even more outcry about the administration’s immigration crackdown in Minnesota.

    U.S. District Judge Fred Biery, who sits in San Antonio and was appointed by former Democratic President Bill Clinton, said in his ruling that “the case has its genesis in the ill-conceived and incompetently-implemented government pursuit of daily deportation quotas, apparently even if it requires traumatizing children.”

    Biery had previously ruled that the boy and his father could not be removed from the U.S., at least for now.

    https://apnews.com/article/immigration-minnesota-boy-detained-a1ef2144c03a0136ef123f5a3685ee44

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    • wtgW Offline
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      He got his hat back.

      alt text

      https://www.cbsnews.com/news/liam-conejo-ramos-released-ice-custody/

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      • D Offline
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        The first thing I thought of is Dol's Liam! You scared me for a minute.

        'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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        • Piano*DadP Offline
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          The court order is worth reading in full. It's short, and in English.

          https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/625841509_1206834904955642_6064544466518976517_n.jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg_tt6&_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=833d8c&_nc_ohc=Ns7ZB8qFHdUQ7kNvwEp0tVX&_nc_oc=AdlEc_ynolKdH6XkCpmc6dVp0XrUSzS8U0uXY0xuFleOpYy6sX9tz0IT-dOX4nJDIug&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-2.xx&_nc_gid=o1QKduYsDeMIi2OrTmCvOA&oh=00_AfvQD6LBWztY_gIUx64X73mSfs3q4pOAXuSFqRZ04Ei8eQ&oe=6986869F
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          Crazy economist who likes to write about higher education.

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          • Piano*DadP Piano*Dad

            The court order is worth reading in full. It's short, and in English.

            https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/625841509_1206834904955642_6064544466518976517_n.jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg_tt6&_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=833d8c&_nc_ohc=Ns7ZB8qFHdUQ7kNvwEp0tVX&_nc_oc=AdlEc_ynolKdH6XkCpmc6dVp0XrUSzS8U0uXY0xuFleOpYy6sX9tz0IT-dOX4nJDIug&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-2.xx&_nc_gid=o1QKduYsDeMIi2OrTmCvOA&oh=00_AfvQD6LBWztY_gIUx64X73mSfs3q4pOAXuSFqRZ04Ei8eQ&oe=6986869F
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            ShiroKuroS Offline
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            @Piano-Dad Wow!

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            • Piano*DadP Offline
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              #6

              I hope that court order is read by law students 100 years hence as a lesson in how democracy is either won or lost -- we don't yet know which, here in the present.

              Crazy economist who likes to write about higher education.

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                A book reviewer's critique of that court opinion:

                https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/02/03/books/judge-ruling-liam-conejo-ramos-analysis.html?unlocked_article_code=1.JVA.gVEf.y6_-0GkMeA2s

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                  I would not use the word "critique" to describe A.O. Scott's explanation of why Biery's order is a masterpiece of judicial writing.

                  Crazy economist who likes to write about higher education.

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