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    American execs visit China.

    https://futurism.com/robots-and-machines/western-executives-shaken-visiting-china

    When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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      Interesting.

      Only tangentially related, but I have been teaching a unit on Japanese technology in my Japanese language course for several years now. I have students do readings about robotics, and different kinds of robots (manufacturing robots, the new customer service robots that are becoming more common in Japan, as well as pet robots like Aibo and therapy robots etc.) And now we’ve added discussion of AI and implications for robots with AI etc.

      Anyway, in the past, students have always enjoyed this unit and they do an essay about it where many talk about the kinds of robots they’d like or how they think robotics will evolve in the future etc.

      This semester? It’s awful. They don’t like robots (which literally is a first) and they are really disinterested in the topic of technology as a whole. (And it’s not the class because the units thus far have proceeded as normal). And everything they talk about is quite pessimistic.

      I wonder if they are “tech-ed” out, or getting the message that America is falling behind in tech development. Or maybe they are seeing tech developments as not improving their future, but threatening it.

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        I've noticed car dealers in the uk are increasingly taking on new Chinese electric brands to sell, eg went to a Mazda dealer and they also sell omoda & jaeco.

        Whatever, I'm planning to swap in our high mileage diesel for a 2litre twin turbo petrol estate, made in Germany.

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          The article talks about the difference in focus, the Chinese on practicaInter slop - pictures, entertainment, etc. This sounds like an important distinction.

          The amount of energy used by American systems vs. the efficiency of Deep Seek will also become important, and I think very quickly. The current pace of infrastructure construction is not sustainable.

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          • ShiroKuroS ShiroKuro

            Interesting.

            Only tangentially related, but I have been teaching a unit on Japanese technology in my Japanese language course for several years now. I have students do readings about robotics, and different kinds of robots (manufacturing robots, the new customer service robots that are becoming more common in Japan, as well as pet robots like Aibo and therapy robots etc.) And now we’ve added discussion of AI and implications for robots with AI etc.

            Anyway, in the past, students have always enjoyed this unit and they do an essay about it where many talk about the kinds of robots they’d like or how they think robotics will evolve in the future etc.

            This semester? It’s awful. They don’t like robots (which literally is a first) and they are really disinterested in the topic of technology as a whole. (And it’s not the class because the units thus far have proceeded as normal). And everything they talk about is quite pessimistic.

            I wonder if they are “tech-ed” out, or getting the message that America is falling behind in tech development. Or maybe they are seeing tech developments as not improving their future, but threatening it.

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            @ShiroKuro said in Checking out the competition:

            I have students do readings about robotics, and different kinds of robots (manufacturing robots, the new customer service robots that are becoming more common in Japan, as well as pet robots like Aibo and therapy robots etc.)

            Don’t miss out on the important category of companionship humanoid robots!

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            • wtgW wtg

              American execs visit China.

              https://futurism.com/robots-and-machines/western-executives-shaken-visiting-china

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              @wtg said in Checking out the competition:

              https://futurism.com/robots-and-machines/western-executives-shaken-visiting-china

              Other executives recalled touring “dark factories” that don’t even need to keep the lights on, as most work is being done around the clock by robots.

              1. “Bring manufacturing back to the USA” — still a good idea for national security and overall economic resilience, but won’t solve the unemployment problem or the income inequality problem as effectively anymore.

              2. Need a ton of high skilled workers to build that kind of high tech manufacturing facilities here if we want to do it quickly, probably also means greater need for importing H1-B workers.

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                I've noticed car dealers in the uk are increasingly taking on new Chinese electric brands to sell, eg went to a Mazda dealer and they also sell omoda & jaeco.

                Whatever, I'm planning to swap in our high mileage diesel for a 2litre twin turbo petrol estate, made in Germany.

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                @AndyD
                A two liter, two turbo gas burner should be quite zippy.

                "The man that hath no music in himself, nor is not moved with concord of sweet sounds, is fit for treasons, stratagems and spoils;” - Shakespeare

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                  @ShiroKuro said in Checking out the competition:

                  I have students do readings about robotics, and different kinds of robots (manufacturing robots, the new customer service robots that are becoming more common in Japan, as well as pet robots like Aibo and therapy robots etc.)

                  Don’t miss out on the important category of companionship humanoid robots!

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                  @Axtremus said in Checking out the competition:

                  companionship humanoid robots!

                  Indeed!

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                    The article talks about the difference in focus, the Chinese on practicaInter slop - pictures, entertainment, etc. This sounds like an important distinction.

                    The amount of energy used by American systems vs. the efficiency of Deep Seek will also become important, and I think very quickly. The current pace of infrastructure construction is not sustainable.

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                    @Steve-Miller said in Checking out the competition:

                    The amount of energy used by American systems vs. the efficiency of Deep Seek will also become important, and I think very quickly. The current pace of infrastructure construction is not sustainable.

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                    https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/china-has-overtaken-america?publication_id=277517&post_id=176217701&isFreemail=true&r=53zo0e&triedRedirect=true

                    When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                      @AndyD
                      A two liter, two turbo gas burner should be quite zippy.

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                      @CHAS said in Checking out the competition:

                      @AndyD
                      A two liter, two turbo gas burner should be quite zippy.

                      Also 7speed automatic and 4wd, with 328bhp... so everyone can drive it 0-60 in under 5sec and max 172mph.

                      Sat in a couple, about £23k for a 3yr old with 30k miles on the clock. Maybe get one late next year.

                      Sorry off topic.
                      Back to the threats of China. Their spying on and hack of our government was discussed in Parliament today.

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