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  • wtgW Offline
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    #55

    Guardian:

    Donald Trump said that Israel has to “calm down” after he said both Israel and Iran violated a ceasefire he tried to broker.

    “I gotta get Israel to calm down now,” Trump said as he left the White House, Reuters reports.

    “Israel, as soon as we made the deal, they came out and they dropped a load of bombs, the likes of which I’ve never seen before, the biggest load that we’ve seen.

    “We basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don’t know what the fuck they’re doing.”

    He might just as well have said what he was thinking: "You're messing up my big reveal and my Nobel Peace Prize!!!"

    When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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      The following statement from the office of the Israeli prime minister was released today (Tuesday, 24 June 2025) [translated from Hebrew]:

      The ceasefire was set for 07.00 this morning. At 03.00, Israel forcefully attacked in the heart of Tehran, struck regime targets and eliminated hundreds of Basij and Iranian security forces personnel.

      Shortly before the ceasefire was due to take effect, Iran launched a barrage of missiles, one of which took the lives of four of our citizens in Be’er Sheva. The ceasefire took effect at 07.00.

      At 07.06, Iran launched one missile at Israeli territory, and two additional missiles at 10.25. These missiles were either intercepted or fell in open areas, and caused neither casualties nor damage.

      In response to Iran’s violations, the Air Force destroyed a radar installation near Tehran.

      Pursuant to the conversation between President Trump and Prime Minister Netanyahu, Israel has refrained from additional attacks.

      In the conversation, President Trump expressed his great appreciation for Israel, which achieved all of its objectives for the war, as well as his confidence in the stability of the ceasefire.

      When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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        #57

        Do they? Or don't they? No one knows for sure....

        https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/23/trump-israel-iran-nuclear-facilities-cia

        When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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          Wouldn't it have been nice if the 200m deep Iranian nuclear facility guarded by army and airforce had been open to IAEA Inspectors at 24 hour notice.

          Since 2018 Iran has not complied with Inspections

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            Wouldn't it have been nice if the 200m deep Iranian nuclear facility guarded by army and airforce had been open to IAEA Inspectors at 24 hour notice.

            Since 2018 Iran has not complied with Inspections

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            @AndyD said in Iran:

            Since 2018 Iran has not complied with Inspections

            Wouldn't have gotten to this point had Trump left the JCPOA alone.

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              @AndyD said in Iran:

              Since 2018 Iran has not complied with Inspections

              Wouldn't have gotten to this point had Trump left the JCPOA alone.

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              @Axtremus said in Iran:

              @AndyD said in Iran:

              Since 2018 Iran has not complied with Inspections

              Wouldn't have gotten to this point had Trump left the JCPOA alone.

              Indeed.

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                Uranium, uranium. Who’s got the uranium?

                https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/24/jd-vance-trump-iran-nuclear-program

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                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                  @AndyD said in Iran:

                  Since 2018 Iran has not complied with Inspections

                  Wouldn't have gotten to this point had Trump left the JCPOA alone.

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                  @Axtremus said in Iran:

                  @AndyD said in Iran:

                  Since 2018 Iran has not complied with Inspections

                  Wouldn't have gotten to this point had Trump left the JCPOA alone.

                  Don't forget Oppenheimer

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                    Somebody’s going to lose their job over this leak.

                    The US military strikes on three of Iran’s nuclear facilities last weekend did not destroy the core components of the country’s nuclear program and likely only set it back by months, according to an early US intelligence assessment that was described by four people briefed on it.

                    The assessment, which has not been previously reported, was produced by the Defense Intelligence Agency, the Pentagon’s intelligence arm. It is based on a battle damage assessment conducted by US Central Command in the aftermath of the US strikes, one of the sources said.

                    The analysis of the damage to the sites and the impact of the strikes on Iran’s nuclear ambitions is ongoing, and could change as more intelligence becomes available. But the early findings are at odds with President Donald Trump’s repeated claims that the strikes “completely and totally obliterated” Iran’s nuclear enrichment facilities. Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth also said on Sunday that Iran’s nuclear ambitions “have been obliterated.”

                    Two of the people familiar with the assessment said Iran’s stockpile of enriched uranium was not destroyed. One of the people said the centrifuges are largely “intact.”

                    “So the (DIA) assessment is that the US set them back maybe a few months, tops,” this person added.

                    https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/24/politics/intel-assessment-us-strikes-iran-nuclear-sites

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                      Thank you for your attention in this matter.

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                        And then there is China…

                        https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/24/trump-takes-middle-east-cease-fire-to-trade-war-strategy-00420371

                        When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                          He's desperate to hang onto the hope of that Nobel.

                          https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/trump-compares-strikes-on-iran-to-hiroshima-bombing-says-it-ended-the-war-8758950

                          When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                            Good piece from Haaretz.

                            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/haaretz-explains-after-the-strikes-what-s-really-left-of-iran-s-nuclear-program/ar-AA1HpaaW

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