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  • wtgW Offline
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    Here's an article from July, before Vance and Trump leapt into the fray...

    Descriptions of the real issues and how serious people are trying to come up with solutions:

    https://www.springfieldnewssun.com/news/thousands-of-haitian-immigrants-now-in-springfield-5-takeaways-from-our-reporting/QQFDZR6JAVCBNC6TGZGAEKE2JU/

    When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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      Local reporting > some bozo on X

      Springfield officials were in the dark about the possibility of a large immigrant relocation to the area, Mayor Rob Rue said at the recent Springfield City Commission meeting, but a “network of businesses knew what was coming.”

      Investigation by the city’s Immigrant Accountability Response Team formed in October of 2023 has revealed the possibility “there were companies that knew they were going to make an effort to bring in individuals who were crossing the border based on federal regulations that they could do that,” Rue said. “I’m upset at the fact we didn’t get a chance to have an infrastructure in place if there were going to be 20,000 more people from 2020 to 2025. We didn’t get to do that.”

      If they had known what to expect, he said, the city would have taken steps to “hire 25 more police officers and 25 firefighters … along with making sure individuals already living here and faithfully paying rent would not be displaced because of the greed of landlords. We would have been ahead of that or tried to combat it … we did not get to do that.”

      Another conversation at the commission session centered on housing affordability and the housing shortfall that has been driving up rents, often resulting in the eviction of long-time tenants who can no longer afford to stay in their homes.

      City officials shared the frustration expressed by residents about the increasing ownership of housing by Limited Liability Corporations (LLCs) from outside the community. Rue said the city is looking into what options might be available to address the problems created by LLC ownership of properties in the city.

      Commissioner Bridget Houston indicated her recent exploration of the issue revealed one of five property purchases in the country is now by an LLC for investment purposes.

      https://www.springfieldnewssun.com/news/springfield-mayor-investigation-into-businesses-immigration-continues/W4OJQYSNUBF7JCMSD72VVQGNQI/

      When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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        Steve Miller
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        They’re not really trying. Those arguments are weird as hell.

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          Steve Miller
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          I don’t even know where to start.

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            wtg
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            @Steve-Miller - would love to hear your thoughts.

            Meanwhile, Vivek Ramaswamy is having a town hall meeting tomorrow night in Springfield.

            When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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              Steve Miller
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              OK. I’ll start. Hire 25 more firefighters? I can’t think of anything more expensive and less productive.

              Are immigrants running around setting fires? If they are I haven’t heard about it.

              And neither has anyone else.

              25 more police officers? To do what? Keep these people from going to work every day?

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                @Steve-Miller - would love to hear your thoughts.

                Meanwhile, Vivek Ramaswamy is having a town hall meeting tomorrow night in Springfield.

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                Steve Miller
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                @wtg Who the hell is Vivek Ramaswamy?

                Does he eat cats?

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                  Trump sycophant. From Wikipedia:

                  Ganapathy Ramaswamy (/vɪˈveɪk rɑːməˈswɑːmiː/;[1][2] vih-VAYK rah-mə-SWAH-mee; born August 9, 1985) is an American entrepreneur. He founded Roivant Sciences, a pharmaceutical company, in 2014. In February 2023, Ramaswamy declared his candidacy for the Republican Party nomination in the 2024 United States presidential election. He suspended his campaign in January 2024, after finishing fourth in the Iowa caucuses.[3]

                  Ramaswamy was born in Cincinnati to Indian immigrant parents. He graduated from Harvard University with a bachelor's degree in biology and later earned a law degree from Yale Law School. Ramaswamy worked as an investment partner at a hedge fund before founding Roivant Sciences. He also co-founded an investment firm, Strive Asset Management.

                  Ramaswamy sees the United States in the middle of a national identity crisis precipitated by what he calls "new secular religions like COVID-ism, climate-ism, and gender ideology".[4] He is also a critic of environmental, social, and corporate governance initiatives (ESG).[5] In January 2024, Forbes estimated Ramaswamy's net worth at more than $960 million; his wealth comes from biotech and financial businesses.[6][7]

                  Ended his campaign in January and endorsed Trump.

                  Does he eat cats?

                  Unlikely.

                  Ramaswamy is a monotheistic Hindu.[21] According to relatives, he is fluent in Tamil[144][145] and understands (but does not speak) Malayalam.[145] He is a vegetarian and wrote in 2020, "I believe it is wrong to kill sentient animals for culinary pleasure".[27][74][146]

                  When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                    Steve Miller
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                    Another right wing kook. Hope he takes his schtick out of Ohio.

                    We have work to do.

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                      Vivek walks the tightrope.

                      It’s a delicate act for ambitious Republicans like Ramaswamy. The biotech entrepreneur has been floated as a potential contender for secretary of Homeland Security if Trump wins the presidential election, and he has a vested interest in currying favor with the former president. But as an Ohio politician who has suggested he might run for governor or senator, he also still needs to preserve some credibility in a state where even prominent Republicans have rebuked Trump for spreading false claims about migrants. If Trump and his running mate, Ohio Sen. JD Vance, win the election, Gov. Mike DeWine, who called the urban legends about Haitian migrants “garbage that was not true,” would pick Vance’s successor.

                      https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/20/vivek-ramaswamy-town-hall-springfield-ohio-00180180

                      @Steve-Miller said in Springfield, OH:

                      Another right wing kook. Hope he takes his schtick out of Ohio.

                      We have work to do.

                      @Steve-Miller - Yes you do.

                      Not sure you can afford to ignore him. He lives in Columbus and is ambitious.

                      When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                        And persistent.

                        “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
                        ― Douglas Adams

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                          Possible human trafficking ring?

                          https://jewishjournal.com/commentary/opinion/375011/feds-and-state-ag-investigate-an-alleged-human-trafficking-empire-run-in-springfield-ohio/

                          That this could be happening wouldn't surprise me at all. There was a hint of it in what the town's mayor said:

                          Investigation by the city’s Immigrant Accountability Response Team formed in October of 2023 has revealed the possibility “there were companies that knew they were going to make an effort to bring in individuals who were crossing the border based on federal regulations that they could do that,” Rue said.

                          When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                            DeWine did an op-ed.

                            I’m the Governor of Ohio. I don’t recognize the Springfield that Trump and Vance describe.

                            https://www.daytondailynews.com/ideas-voices/im-the-governor-of-ohio-i-dont-recognize-the-springfield-that-trump-and-vance-describe/YIFGGVPDJ5F4VLCHHR6B544OZI/

                            When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                              Steve Miller
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                              “I never thought the leopards would eat my face!

                              What a tool.

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                                The City of Springfield, Ohio filed a civil lawsuit against a neo-Nazi group, alleging that members of the organization started a campaign to harass and silence residents who supported the Haitian community.

                                Springfield Mayor Rob Rue, Asst. Mayor Dr. David Estrop, City Commissioners Krystal Brown and Tracey Tackett, and four other residents filed the lawsuit Feb. 4 in Ohio’s Southern District Court in Dayton against the Blood Tribe, founded by Christopher Pohlhaus and co-led by Drake Berentz.

                                The eight plaintiffs claim that the group interfered with their civil rights, created a public nuisance, violated Ohio laws on telecommunications harassment, ethnic intimidation, menacing and inciting violence, and intentionally inflicted emotional distress through hate-based conduct.

                                The complaint says the Blood Tribe sent suspicious packages that looked like bombs to the plaintiffs’ homes, left “harassing” voicemails, sent hateful emails, used dating platforms to “send men looking for drugs and sex to their homes late at night,” published their personal information online, and encouraged others to harass them as well.

                                According to the document, the organization began its “hit” on the City of Springfield in July 2024 in an effort to stop the “invasion” of Haitian migrants.

                                “Though the vast majority of the immigrants lawfully reside in the United States, and had been welcomed by the City, the Blood Tribe insisted that Haitians who settled in Springfield threatened ‘the good White residents’ of Springfield,” the lawsuit reads.

                                https://www.21alivenews.com/2025/02/07/city-springfield-ohio-sues-neo-nazi-group-after-continuous-threats-over-haitian-migrants/

                                And Trump apologists back then were like “at least people are talking about immigration issues”.

                                Still pisses me off.

                                When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                                  Lawyers may save us all!

                                  Who knew?

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