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Iran (Disclaimer-- the war, not the country)

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    Daniel
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    I've said pretty much said what I wanted to say about it. It's an illegal war. It constitutes multiple crimes against humanity. It was ill advised. It's backfiring militarily. It isn't and never was in the interests of the US. It's wreaking havoc on the global economy. It's especially objectionable to me that US service members are being required to fight and die in it. That's all.

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      Oh, but we can't. The UK and US have made laws making criticizing the state of Israel a criminal offense. This is a direct, de facto violation of the US Constitution. It is no more right for the UK government to have done this in a free society. Now I ask-- were these aberrations resultant of the influence of the state of Israel? Or were they influenced by do-gooders who happened to be so taken by the welfare of Jews in free societies that taking away free speech in those societies became an Orwellian agenda? In addition, the United States Constitution includes the separation of church and state. Citizens in our countries are legally prohibited from expressing negative political opinions about a foreign state? What kind of madness is this?

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      jon-nyc
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      @Daniel said:

      Oh, but we can't. The UK and US have made laws making criticizing the state of Israel a criminal offense.

      The US? What jurisdiction?

      As for the UK it wouldn’t shock me but the anecdotes I’ve heard to date are people getting in legal trouble for criticizing Islam and gender ideology.

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        Daniel
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        It's federal so everywhere.

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            jon-nyc
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            I’m pretty sure that isn’t true. Can you find some link to the actual legislation?

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              Daniel
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              Okay.

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                Daniel
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                Please give me a day or two so I can find and cite the actual legislation.

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                  AndyD
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                  As I understand things in the UK, you are legally obliged not to support terrorist organisations such as Hamas, Hezbollah.
                  These have been investigated
                  by our government and judged to be and designated terrorist organisations because of their stated intention and their proven actions.
                  E.g. for Hamas: intention to kill all Israelis, action send 3000 men into Israel to kill 1200 infants children women men and take 300 hostage. Legally designated.
                  This does not mean you are not allowed to support the people of Gaza verbally or financially.

                  Ventosa viri restabit

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                    Daniel
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                    Not exactly. More like certain forms of dissent have been out lawed. Same here as I will prove.

                    Link to video

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                      I grew up in a military family two miles from an Air Force base.

                      Take out the runways. Take out the tower. What have you.

                      Don't forget military bases aren't countries. They are very small in terms of land area.

                      Americans have been fleeing to hotels from military bases for some time.

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                      Daniel said:

                      I grew up in a military family two miles from an Air Force base.

                      Take out the runways. Take out the tower. What have you.

                      Don't forget military bases aren't countries. They are very small in terms of land area.

                      Americans have been fleeing to hotels from military bases for some time.

                      Link to video

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                        Daniel
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                        Link to video

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                          Axtremus
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                          The commies are winning ...

                          https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/13/business/energy-environment/china-energy-battery-grid.html?unlocked_article_code=1.alA.rW-a.Z3d9kgOfzttP

                          Now the war with Iran has laid bare the risks of reliance on Middle Eastern oil and gas. Countries are realizing that all paths to renewable power run through China and its exporters.

                          Even if a cease-fire between the United States and Iran helps ease disruptions in the Strait of Hormuz, the shock has already grabbed the attention of governments worldwide. Faced with energy shortages, they are accelerating efforts to upgrade their power grids, bringing them to the doorstep of Chinese companies eager to supply them.

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                            Daniel
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                            Cluster****.

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                              Daniel
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                              I'll get the cite for you, jon.

                              No problem. It was some Bizzaro legislation but it happened.

                              Apologize for the delay. Very busy, high stress in my house. I'll focus on it.

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