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  • Piano*DadP Offline
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    Piano*Dad
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    No, Ezra Klein, Charlie Kirk was not practicing politics "the right way"

    https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/09/charlie-kirk-legacy-ezra-klein-2020-election-trump-turning-point/

    Crazy economist who likes to write about higher education.

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      Mehdi Hasan doesn't think Charlie Kirk was practicing politics "the right way"

      https://bsky.app/profile/mehdirhasan.bsky.social/post/3lylrglnjtk2r

      Crazy economist who likes to write about higher education.

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        Looking more and more like a professional job to rile up the base and distract from the pedos and pedo protectors in power... (and probably a not-so veiled threat to any others that might step out of line. . . I'll go back in my bunker now.)

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          AndyD
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          Watching the latest news as person arrested, one wonders how many more decades it will take America to fix certain things.
          JFK was shot 60 years ago, politically are things better?
          Regarding gun crime, are things better 60 years on?

          Not that many other countries are particularly better. A British MP was stabbed to death in recent years, at his regular constituency meeting... culprit easily caught of course.

          In the UK any gun (and knife also) brandished in public will get a fast and pretty decisive response from fully armed police (glocks and shotguns).

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            Watching the latest news as person arrested, one wonders how many more decades it will take America to fix certain things.
            JFK was shot 60 years ago, politically are things better?
            Regarding gun crime, are things better 60 years on?

            Not that many other countries are particularly better. A British MP was stabbed to death in recent years, at his regular constituency meeting... culprit easily caught of course.

            In the UK any gun (and knife also) brandished in public will get a fast and pretty decisive response from fully armed police (glocks and shotguns).

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            Bernard
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            @AndyD said in Now Charlie Kirk:

            JFK was shot 60 years ago, politically are things better?

            A good question. I was pondering it a few days ago. I grew up in the 60s. JFK, Robert Kennedy, Martin Luther King--all assassinated.

            One thing that's different now is wealth inequality and the corporate takeover of our lives, and the politics they foster. Also different: Trump and his swamp have emboldened the less savory to come out into the open. The republican party has worked for decades to put power in christian nationalism. Add technological "advances" into the mix with instant, incessant chatter and the pot is easy to stir.

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              Rontuner
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              What?!? Maybe Kirk was too far left for this group?

              https://www.newsweek.com/groyper-charlie-kirk-shooting-nick-fuentes-2129114

              "As authorities investigate the motive, online speculation has turned toward extremist factions that once targeted Kirk—specifically, Fuentes' "Groyper Army," which has long accused him of being insufficiently radical."

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                Steve Miller
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                Today I learned a new word. Groyper.

                Ugh.

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                  Amanda
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                  Just a thought off the top of my head - the extraordinary parallelism of Christian Nationalism and Israeli Religious Nationalism.

                  And both equally dangerous when armed.

                  Anybody remember the major conflict in Israel (before 10/7) when Netanyahu's coalition was fighting for Israel's executive branch to supersede the Supreme Court in decision making.

                  Israel was verging on Civil War. An exogenous war on all militarized fronts apart from Egypt and Jordan, took the heat off that controversy. How long can war with inimical neighbors, serve to postpone returning to that internecine conflict ?
                  (And with it, finally precipitate a New Election and with it, prosecuting Netanyahu for “ordinary” corruption) ?

                  Especially since there’s another urgent internecine conflict in Israel (whether to draft Yeshiva students) which should by rights be decided by the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court technically has legislative precedence over the Rabbinate (except over civil issues like marriage) this controversy should be easily resolved.

                  However, because Netanyahu is dependent on ultra religious parties to remain in power (a power bloc behind the Chief Rabbinate), there’s no way to resolve the draft impasse. Meanwhile, the injustice of sparing the lives of Yeshiva students continues at the expense of the non-ultrareligious populace.

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                    (Confused about how to complete edits. In the interests of more readable sections, perhaps cutting this long post here will help, although I'm only doing it because I couldn't do otherwise!)

                    ...They continue to be drafted at the ordinary age (18) at the same time that the rest of military age men (to age 50) are mercilessly called up from the reserves. They serve far longer than is supposed to be their maximum stints, leaving their families without income and depleting the workforce. I have no idea why the economy hasn’t collapsed. The ever increasing number of service-related suicides attests to the nationwide crisis which protects Netanyahu reign.

                    G-d forbid Evangelicals in the US were to be armed! It does seem that was the overarching plan of Charlie Kirk. It is a certainty that their civilians are already far more armed than any opposition, but what if the Army were called in to back them up?

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                      CHAS
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                      Victim my Azz

                      "The man that hath no music in himself, nor is not moved with concord of sweet sounds, is fit for treasons, stratagems and spoils;” - Shakespeare

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