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  • LisaL Offline
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    Daniel, I want to see real scientific proof that mRNA causes blood clots. Do you have any??? Because mRNA is present in your body already - your body uses mRNA every single time one of your cells makes a protein. The mRNA vaccine is using mRNA to get your body to build a protein that it wouldn't naturally build (in the case of the covid vaccine, part of the covid spike protein) so that your body can make antibodies to the foreign protein without actually needing to get sick from the full covid virus. So if there IS actual proof that the covid vaccine causes blood clots, my guess is that it's from the covid spike protein that the mRNA builds, not the mRNA itself (which is destroyed and recycled naturally by the body as soon as the protein is built -- your own body is making and destroying mRNA constantly.) And if it IS the covid spike protein that is causing blood clots, then that spike protein would cause blood clots whether you used an mRNA vaccine or a whole cell vaccine or just flat out caught covid naturally (and it IS proven that Covid causes blood clots.) So it makes ZERO sense to blame mRNA -- and mRNA has a whole host of other applications -- by enabling your body to make proteins it wouldn't otherwise make, you can target cancer cells and other diseases......there's a huge body of mRNA research that's about to be blown up and people WILL die of cancers and diseases that this research could and would have cured. All because we as a country can't seem to grasp 7th grade biology.

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      @Lisa Great explanation.

      When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aum么nier

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        Daniel, I want to see real scientific proof that mRNA causes blood clots. Do you have any??? Because mRNA is present in your body already - your body uses mRNA every single time one of your cells makes a protein. The mRNA vaccine is using mRNA to get your body to build a protein that it wouldn't naturally build (in the case of the covid vaccine, part of the covid spike protein) so that your body can make antibodies to the foreign protein without actually needing to get sick from the full covid virus. So if there IS actual proof that the covid vaccine causes blood clots, my guess is that it's from the covid spike protein that the mRNA builds, not the mRNA itself (which is destroyed and recycled naturally by the body as soon as the protein is built -- your own body is making and destroying mRNA constantly.) And if it IS the covid spike protein that is causing blood clots, then that spike protein would cause blood clots whether you used an mRNA vaccine or a whole cell vaccine or just flat out caught covid naturally (and it IS proven that Covid causes blood clots.) So it makes ZERO sense to blame mRNA -- and mRNA has a whole host of other applications -- by enabling your body to make proteins it wouldn't otherwise make, you can target cancer cells and other diseases......there's a huge body of mRNA research that's about to be blown up and people WILL die of cancers and diseases that this research could and would have cured. All because we as a country can't seem to grasp 7th grade biology.

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        @Lisa said in Goodbye, mRNA vaccine funding:

        All because we as a country can't seem to grasp 7th grade biology.

        Mhmmm. Yep. That's what drives people to accept bullshit from the internet and stupid anecdotes as the equivalent of the best peer-reviewed evidence. Even people here ...

        Crazy economist who likes to write about higher education.

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          What a bunch of crap. 20 years previous? THERE WERE NO SUCCESSFUL EFFICACY TRIALS WHEN THEY WERE RELEASED- NONE. See: Pysyer testimony to the EU. They don't create blood clots?! See: Google. There are people who believe anything the MSM tells them to believe. Even here. Do your own research and stop listening to the propagandistic mouthpieces of corporations with a vested interest.

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            A short history of mRNA vaccines:

            https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2021/the-long-history-of-mrna-vaccines

            When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aum么nier

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            • D Daniel.

              What a bunch of crap. 20 years previous? THERE WERE NO SUCCESSFUL EFFICACY TRIALS WHEN THEY WERE RELEASED- NONE. See: Pysyer testimony to the EU. They don't create blood clots?! See: Google. There are people who believe anything the MSM tells them to believe. Even here. Do your own research and stop listening to the propagandistic mouthpieces of corporations with a vested interest.

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              THERE WERE NO SUCCESSFUL EFFICACY TRIALS WHEN THEY WERE RELEASED- NONE. See: Pysyer testimony to the EU.

              Fact check:

              https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-10-21/fact-check-pfizer-admission-transmission-european-parliament/101556606

              https://www.wcpo.com/news/coronavirus/fact-check-did-pfizer-lie-about-testing-covid-19-vaccines-ability-to-prevent-transmission-before-roll-out

              And there is this paper:

              COVID-19 vaccines approved in the European Union: current evidence and perspectives

              https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8425438/

              When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aum么nier

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                Daniel.
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                I watched the Physer executive testify in front of the EU. I don't need "fact checks." Sorry, he was plain as day. And why did you think you had to sign a form exempting these corporations from liability?

                These discussions, like the ones about the origins of Covid are not worth having because of these asinine whitewashed narratives some like to lap up like it was mother's milk.

                Buy by all means, carry on.

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                  The fact check provides additional information and context that is not available in the testimony alone. But if you're not interested in that info, no problem.

                  When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aum么nier

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                    #17

                    It changes nothing that I said. This is tiresome. Try getting beyond the six major media conglomerates and doing your own research. You might be surprised that truth often doesn't arrive in a cardboard box, with nice wrapping paper, and tied up with a nice bow.

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                    • D Daniel.

                      It changes nothing that I said. This is tiresome. Try getting beyond the six major media conglomerates and doing your own research. You might be surprised that truth often doesn't arrive in a cardboard box, with nice wrapping paper, and tied up with a nice bow.

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                      @Daniel. said in Goodbye, mRNA vaccine funding:

                      Try getting beyond the six major media conglomerates

                      I can read the professional medical literature. You cannot, and you will substitute "your own research" for an understanding of that professional literature.

                      You are irrelevant.

                      Crazy economist who likes to write about higher education.

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                        Most professionals speak for themselves very easily. You are the exception to the rule especially when you're discussing topics about which you are only a layperson.

                        I don't know where you get your sense of superiority since I've never seen anything to justify it and where you get your hatefulness, who knows, and, finally, when it comes to the live streamed genocide in Gaza and the West Bank, you are as dumb as a box of rocks.

                        You're an ignorant, obstinate person masquerading as some kind of scholar. Your opinion is irrelevant to me.

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