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    William Shakespeare was in danger of being canceled. He was a big fan of ­mind-altering ­drugs—especially cannabis. But the Church of England looked down on live theater because of its “unwholesome” moral content and was keeping an eye out for plays to shut down; plus, city officials had to approve plays before they could be performed within the city limits. So, if Shakespeare had dared to admit publicly that he smoked cannabis, it might have ended his career.

    That’s right, Shakespeare was a stoner. I’m not making this up—they found the evidence in his backyard. Back in 2001, some anthropologists got permission from a museum to borrow ­twenty-four clay pipe fragments that had been dug up in the small town of Stratford-upon-Avon, where Shakespeare used to live. Using state-of-the-art forensic technology, the anthropologists discovered cannabis residue on eight of ­them—including several from Shakespeare’s backyard ­garden—that dated back to the late 1500s/early 1600s, around the time he actually lived there.

    https://lithub.com/did-shakespeare-write-hamlet-while-he-was-stoned/

    When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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      The original Firesign Theatre.

      “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
      ― Douglas Adams

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        It was used for recreational and medicinal purposes back then, in fact farmers had to grow it by law for making ropes/rigging I think.
        It's only recently we've (again) demonised the use.

        As tobacco was first brought to the UK around 1590 and Shakespeare, (checking) lived 1564-1616, he probably did smoke cannabis. We'd apparently been smoking various plants for a thousand years!

        Which makes watching 'Upstart Crow' even more entertaining as David Mitchell and Lisa Tarbuck both with pipes, sit together in front of the blazing hearth reflecting on their day, apparently half stoned 🤪

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          Who's that? UK's answer to Cheech and Chong?

          “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
          ― Douglas Adams

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            @Mik
            If you mean Upstart Crow(the derogatory name assigned by Greene to Shakespeare in his pamphlet A Groatsworth of Wit), I cannot recommend the TV series highly enough.
            Brilliant comedy writing by Ben Elton, you need little or no real knowledge about Shakespeare to enjoy it.

            The pathos of the episode when his son dies is up there with the last of the Black Adder WW1 series.

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              The "trope" of cancelling Shakespeare is beyond stupid.

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                Cannabis grown directly from hemp is legal in Florida. It's about 1/4 the quality of dispensary cannabis. You don't have to worry about harshing your buzz. Harsh is the baseline. This Florida half in half out approach is also beyond stupid.

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                  The "trope" of cancelling Shakespeare is beyond stupid.

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                  @Daniel. said in Was Shakespeare a stoner?:

                  The "trope" of cancelling Shakespeare is beyond stupid.

                  You can't cancel Shakespeare It's not possible. He is so ingrained in Western culture. read this.

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                  “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
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                    @Mik
                    If you mean Upstart Crow(the derogatory name assigned by Greene to Shakespeare in his pamphlet A Groatsworth of Wit), I cannot recommend the TV series highly enough.
                    Brilliant comedy writing by Ben Elton, you need little or no real knowledge about Shakespeare to enjoy it.

                    The pathos of the episode when his son dies is up there with the last of the Black Adder WW1 series.

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                    @AndyD I never heard of this show. I found some highlights on YouTube. OMG, I'm going to be binging on everything I can find. LOL.

                    The industrial revolution cheapened everything.

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                      @Daniel. said in Was Shakespeare a stoner?:

                      The "trope" of cancelling Shakespeare is beyond stupid.

                      You can't cancel Shakespeare It's not possible. He is so ingrained in Western culture. read this.

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                      @Mik said in Was Shakespeare a stoner?:

                      @Daniel. said in Was Shakespeare a stoner?:

                      The "trope" of cancelling Shakespeare is beyond stupid.

                      You can't cancel Shakespeare It's not possible. He is so ingrained in Western culture. read this.

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                      I have!

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                          I started college at a small Xtian school an area of Missouri where hemp was grown for rope during the war. Marijuana was news. The local ditches were loaded with it. One would have to smoke a bale of that to get high, or so we were told. 😊

                          "The man that hath no music in himself, nor is not moved with concord of sweet sounds, is fit for treasons, stratagems and spoils;” - Shakespeare

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                            And they were right. That stuff was all over Indiana too. Worthless.

                            “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
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