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    El Salvador has offered to take in criminals deported from the US, including those with US citizenship, and house them in its mega-jail.

    The deal was announced after US Secretary of State Marco Rubio met Salvadorean President Nayib Bukele during his visit to the central American nation.

    Bukele - whose iron-fist approach to gangs has won him plaudits from voters but been heavily criticised by human rights groups - said he had offered the US "the opportunity to outsource part of its prison system".

    Rubio said the US was "profoundly grateful" to Bukele, adding that "no country's ever made an offer of friendship such as this".

    Rubio told reporters: "He has offered to house in his jails dangerous American criminals in custody in our country, including those with US citizenship and legal residency."

    Referring to two of the region's most notorious transnational crime gangs, Rubio added that El Salvador would also take in deported migrants and "criminals from any nationality, be the MS-13 or Tren de Aragua".

    Bukele later confirmed the offer on X, specifying that "we are willing to take in only convicted criminals (including convicted US citizens) into our mega-prison (CECOT) in exchange for a fee".

    He added that "the fee would be relatively low for the US but significant for us, making our entire prison sustainable".

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0jn5291p52o

    When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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      El Salvador has offered to take in criminals deported from the US, including those with US citizenship, and house them in its mega-jail.

      The deal was announced after US Secretary of State Marco Rubio met Salvadorean President Nayib Bukele during his visit to the central American nation.

      Bukele - whose iron-fist approach to gangs has won him plaudits from voters but been heavily criticised by human rights groups - said he had offered the US "the opportunity to outsource part of its prison system".

      Rubio said the US was "profoundly grateful" to Bukele, adding that "no country's ever made an offer of friendship such as this".

      Rubio told reporters: "He has offered to house in his jails dangerous American criminals in custody in our country, including those with US citizenship and legal residency."

      Referring to two of the region's most notorious transnational crime gangs, Rubio added that El Salvador would also take in deported migrants and "criminals from any nationality, be the MS-13 or Tren de Aragua".

      Bukele later confirmed the offer on X, specifying that "we are willing to take in only convicted criminals (including convicted US citizens) into our mega-prison (CECOT) in exchange for a fee".

      He added that "the fee would be relatively low for the US but significant for us, making our entire prison sustainable".

      https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0jn5291p52o

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      @wtg said in Impact of immigration policy:

      "no country's ever made an offer of friendship such as this".

      With friends like that... 🙄

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        El Salvador has offered to take in criminals deported from the US, including those with US citizenship, and house them in its mega-jail.

        The deal was announced after US Secretary of State Marco Rubio met Salvadorean President Nayib Bukele during his visit to the central American nation.

        Bukele - whose iron-fist approach to gangs has won him plaudits from voters but been heavily criticised by human rights groups - said he had offered the US "the opportunity to outsource part of its prison system".

        Rubio said the US was "profoundly grateful" to Bukele, adding that "no country's ever made an offer of friendship such as this".

        Rubio told reporters: "He has offered to house in his jails dangerous American criminals in custody in our country, including those with US citizenship and legal residency."

        Referring to two of the region's most notorious transnational crime gangs, Rubio added that El Salvador would also take in deported migrants and "criminals from any nationality, be the MS-13 or Tren de Aragua".

        Bukele later confirmed the offer on X, specifying that "we are willing to take in only convicted criminals (including convicted US citizens) into our mega-prison (CECOT) in exchange for a fee".

        He added that "the fee would be relatively low for the US but significant for us, making our entire prison sustainable".

        https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0jn5291p52o

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        @ShiroKuro

        Add this.

        "the fee would be relatively low for the US but significant for us, making our entire prison sustainable".

        And this (from a separate NPR article):

        Human rights activists have warned that El Salvador lacks a consistent policy for the treatment of asylum seekers and refugees and that such an agreement might not be limited to violent criminals.

        What could possibly go wrong?

        When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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          The prison:

          https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/what-to-know-about-the-el-salvadorian-mega-prison-trump-has-promised-to-send-u-s-prisoners

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            Running into a few problems with immigration roundups...asking for a bit more money...

            President Trump's vow to deport "millions and millions" of unauthorized immigrants is meeting harsh reality — already stretching the limits of the government's resources, less than four weeks into the new administration.

            Why it matters: A lack of funds, detention space, officers and infrastructure to handle arrested immigrants is frustrating many involved in the effort — and made goals such as 1 million deportations this year seem unrealistic.

            Zoom in: That urgency led the White House to ask Congress for an immediate infusion of $175 billion to help Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) acquire more detention space, boost staff and address other needs.

            "At the end of the day, we've gotta just spend money," Sen. Tommy Tuberville (R-Ala.) said in a brief interview at the White House. "Unfortunately the American taxpayers are going to have to pay the bill on this."

            https://www.axios.com/2025/02/13/trump-immigration-deportation-obstacles

            Same taxpayers who will understand the near term effects of tariffs?

            Suuuure....

            When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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              Zoom in: That urgency led the White House to ask Congress for an immediate infusion of $175 billion to help Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) acquire more detention space, boost staff and address other needs.

              $175 Billion.

              Seems like a lot.

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                Well, you've got to include all the money skimmed off the top before anything ever reaches ICE... Isn't that the new Republican way of doing business?

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                  And the TACO truck makes another stop....

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                    Immigration raids could 'devastate' construction in the United States, says industry leader

                    Industries that rely on workers who are in the country without legal status, like agriculture, restaurants and construction, are taking notice.

                    The Pew Research Center said, as of 2017, 12% of workers in the construction industry were immigrants in the country with authorization. In 2021, the Center for American Progress estimated that among construction laborers, 23% don't have legal status.

                    https://www.npr.org/2025/06/11/nx-s1-5428169/immigration-raids-construction-workers-hispanic-construction-council

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                      And the TACO truck makes another stop....

                      alt text

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                      @wtg

                      He’s sundowning again.

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                        TACOs for everyone! Well, at least for the people he thinks voted for him and whose businesses rely on immigrant workers....

                        U.S. President Donald Trump's administration has told immigration officials to largely pause raids and arrests in the agricultural industry, hotels and restaurants, the New York Times reported on Friday.
                        The report cited an internal email and three U.S. officials with knowledge of the guidance.

                        "Effective today, please hold on all work site enforcement investigations/operations on agriculture (including aquaculture and meat packing plants), restaurants and operating hotels,” Tatum King, a senior official at the Immigration and Customs Enforcement, said in guidance to regional leaders of the department, the Times added.

                        The Department of Homeland Security confirmed the guidance to the Times and said: “We will follow the president’s direction and continue to work to get the worst of the worst criminal illegal aliens off of America’s streets,”

                        Reuters:

                        https://archive.is/Tn1t8#selection-1229.20-1249.225

                        Maybe this will bring some logic and sanity to this process. Sad that it had to come to ICE agents chasing the strawberry picker through a field before the administration got the message...

                        When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                          Ice’s ‘inhumane’ arrest of well-known vineyard manager shakes Oregon wine industry

                          https://www.diningandcooking.com/2134742/ices-inhumane-arrest-of-well-known-vineyard-manager-shakes-oregon-wine-industry-us-immigration/

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                            Rotten tomatoes.

                            Tony DiMare’s family owns 4,000 acres of tomato farms across Florida and California. Sadly, his Florida crops are not looking good — mowed over and left to rot, like tomato vines across the state.

                            But it’s not growing conditions that are the problem. It’s economic ones.

                            https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/florida-farmers-now-plowing-over-perfectly-good-tomatoes-as-trump-s-tariff-policies-cause-prices-to-plummet/ar-AA1HDIlh?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=390a9a37a5544ceeb974275f45d2a73c&ei=29

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