Leopards Eating More Faces
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So many mixed feelings.
Of course I feel sorry for the family caught up in this political hunt, driven substantially by racist motives. ICE is gonna suffer a lot in 2029 if a Dem wins the White House. In fact, we may see the closure of that organization completely.
But my sympathy for districts that voted for Trump is rather fragile. I just want to dope slap those folks. And after dope-slapping them, if they're still remorseful despite the dope-slapping, then welcome them back into the fold.
Yet if you want to decrease illegal migration (illegal, mind you), the most sensible way to do that is by hitting those who employ illegal migrants. If you want to hear the howling, wait until ICE destroys the labor force of White-owned factories in truly ruby red states. leading to really painful losses for White Republicans. Can't wait.
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I have barely a smidge of empathy for people who voted for Trump. After a decade of him on the national political stage, anyone who thought he'd be a good choice in 2024 is seriously flawed in their ability to discern character. Is it their own fault? I don't know, I don't understand it. What sort of blinders are these people wearing?
If we are a nation of laws, we must be so from top to bottom. If you're hiring illegals, just stop it.
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I have barely a smidge of empathy for people who voted for Trump. After a decade of him on the national political stage, anyone who thought he'd be a good choice in 2024 is seriously flawed in their ability to discern character. Is it their own fault? I don't know, I don't understand it. What sort of blinders are these people wearing?
If we are a nation of laws, we must be so from top to bottom. If you're hiring illegals, just stop it.
@Bernard said in Leopards Eating More Faces:
If you're hiring illegals, just stop it.
I think the problem is, it's more complicated than that, and it always has been. The economy is propped up by "illegal" labor. So, if the country relies on "illegal" migrant workers, we ought to make it possible for those folks to become not illegal... that's what other presidents have tried to do, and that's why in the past, undocumented workers whose only crime was being here illegally were not treated in the same was as undocumented criminals who were engaged in other criminal activity.
Thus, I have a great deal of sympathy for the people who worked at the bakery and the people who hired them.
This is about nuance as much as anything else. One of the problems with our current administration is that they don't do nuance.
Also, please don't quote me, I'm going to delete this post later.
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Yes I agree it's complicated and my statement doesn't account for nuance. And I agree that the answer is to come up with a solution that makes it possible for immigrants to work here legally. But at the same time, business owners (and others) who hire illegal immigrants are breaking the law and I think they should stop. The answer to a bad system is not law breaking, but law making.
This problem is decades old it really seems as if no one is intent on fixing it (probably because so many businesses are benefitting from it, and it's good for scoring political points). And that's stupid and hurts more people than it does good.
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Article says the workers were here legally - green card - but no work permits.
It’s about paperwork
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Not green cards, a green card has no restrictions on work. The owners had green cards, the workers didn’t.
Six of Abby’s eight employees were in the U.S. on visitor visas but none had work permits when Homeland Security Investigations agents came to the business Feb. 12
I believe a visitor’s visa is a temporary visa, like for tourists. You’re not allowed to work with that.
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Not green cards, a green card has no restrictions on work. The owners had green cards, the workers didn’t.
Six of Abby’s eight employees were in the U.S. on visitor visas but none had work permits when Homeland Security Investigations agents came to the business Feb. 12
I believe a visitor’s visa is a temporary visa, like for tourists. You’re not allowed to work with that.
@ShiroKuro said in Leopards Eating More Faces:
Not green cards, a green card has no restrictions on work. The owners had green cards, the workers didn’t.
Six of Abby’s eight employees were in the U.S. on visitor visas but none had work permits when Homeland Security Investigations agents came to the business Feb. 12
I believe a visitor’s visa is a temporary visa, like for tourists. You’re not allowed to work with that.
Yes, and the owners surely knew that. As do the hypocritical white farmers who hire illegals by the truck load to pick crops and the Iowa chicken processing plants who hire them by the hundreds to do work none of the white folk in town would do for double the going wage.
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