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  • wtgW Offline
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    How much economic damage will America suffer because it has become a rogue nation? Of course, there’s much more than money at stake here. Still, becoming a nation that can’t be trusted to honor agreements or follow the rule of law has to have monetary as well as political and diplomatic consequences. How big are these monetary consequences?

    Well, I’ve been exploring the available data, and U.S. exposure to foreign revulsion looks quite large.

    https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/teslafying-us-exports?publication_id=277517&post_id=159189490&isFreemail=true&r=53zo0e&triedRedirect=true

    When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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      The damage done by Donald Trump's chaotic tariff war has Ontario businesses looking for new trading partners and allies, in the midst of deep uncertainty caused by the conflict.

      That's according to groups representing businesses and workers across the province, who say one of the most profound impacts of the U.S. president's scatter-shot approach has been to undermine decades of trust built between the two countries.

      The uncertainty has meant businesses across the province are now planning with an eye to Trump's mercurial behaviour, said Ontario Chamber of Commerce CEO Daniel Tisch.

      "The White House has shown itself to be unreliable, untrustworthy and uncoordinated," he said. "I think the worry is that even if we do get to a deal … there's no guarantee that later in his term, the president won't turn on us again."

      https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/business-concerns-us-trade-1.7483636

      When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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        I’ve read that Canadian consumers are combing their grocery stores to find products that don’t come from the US. US products are returned to the shelves upside down or backwards to save time for the next consumer.

        Bravo! 👍

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          And then there are products like this:

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          There’s a lively Reddit debate on whether products made in Canada by an American company should be upside down or not. Judging by the packaging, Glad doesn’t think so. Most Redditors disagree.

          Elbows up! 👍

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            Our order of operations for what we will buy:
            Canadian made by a Canada owned company
            Wholly Canadian made by a company owned elsewhere
            Some parts made in Canada by a Canadian company
            Some parts made in Canada by a company that is headquartered somewhere else in the world, but not the US
            Products made in another country, but not the US. We favour Europe and Mexico.
            Some parts made in Canada by a company that is headquartered in the US
            US products, only if there is no alternative

            It will take a long time before I cross the border. We used to go very frequently, popping over for dinner or a show or to visit a specific store. I have no intention of resuming that until I feel like we can trust the US again, and unfortunately that will take more than a change in the president.

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              Our order of operations for what we will buy:
              Canadian made by a Canada owned company
              Wholly Canadian made by a company owned elsewhere
              Some parts made in Canada by a Canadian company
              Some parts made in Canada by a company that is headquartered somewhere else in the world, but not the US
              Products made in another country, but not the US. We favour Europe and Mexico.
              Some parts made in Canada by a company that is headquartered in the US
              US products, only if there is no alternative

              It will take a long time before I cross the border. We used to go very frequently, popping over for dinner or a show or to visit a specific store. I have no intention of resuming that until I feel like we can trust the US again, and unfortunately that will take more than a change in the president.

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              @dolmansaxlil said in Destroying America's brand:

              until I feel like we can trust the US again, and unfortunately that will take more than a change in the president.

              To me, this is the thing that's really going to damage us long, long term.

              People see that the US is unstable. If it can change this quickly in less than two months, a new administration is not going to make the US seem any better.

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                https://apple.news/AsVhaNzqYSquVod0HtrKtYA

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                  Buying defense equipment elsewhere.

                  https://apnews.com/article/trump-f35-defense-military-fighter-jets-7e18c5459228d16769385dd0b8c3d930

                  When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                    The U.S. government is making it more difficult for Canadians to access the Stanstead, Que., library, an iconic building that straddles the border, according to town and library officials.

                    The Haskell Free Library and Opera House, built in 1904, has been declared a heritage site in both countries and has long been considered a symbol of harmony between Canada and the U.S.

                    The mayor of Stanstead, representatives from the library and local residents spoke out Friday against the U.S. government's decision to limit Canadians' access to the main entrance to the building.

                    Jody Stone, Stanstead's mayor, said an agreement had been in place for more than a century to share access to the building. Stone, who grew up in the area, said the restrictions undermine the spirit of cross-border collaboration in the area.

                    "We drink the same water, we share the same sewer plant," he said at a news conference near the library.

                    "Without borders, you wouldn't even know we were two separate communities. Today's announcement makes no sense in my opinion."

                    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/us-border-canada-quebec-stanstead-library-1.7489528

                    When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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