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    pique
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    I agree with Bernie Sanders in the short clip they also had from him, where he talks about how Dems should have had a much stronger message about the true culprit in our divided nation: the billionaire class who are pitting us against each other for their own benefit. The rise of the oligarchy is the real threat to us.

    fear is the thief of dreams

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      I find their post-mortem with Alan Lichtman far more on point:

      https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/10/politics/video/fareeds-take-gps-2024-election-results-digvid

      I hope that takes you to the correct video. If not, scroll down the selections until you find Lichtman's. Corporate greed and massive disinformation are the new keys. I strongly agree.

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      @pique said in Reports from the heartland:

      I find their post-mortem with Alan Lichtman far more on point:

      https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/10/politics/video/fareeds-take-gps-2024-election-results-digvid

      I hope that takes you to the correct video. If not, scroll down the selections until you find Lichtman's. Corporate greed and massive disinformation are the new keys. I strongly agree.

      Found the video, will watch a bit later.

      https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/08/politics/video/allan-lichtman-wrong-prediction-keys-election-digvid

      When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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        The WaPo also has an article about the new right wing government in New Zealand (a number of Kiwis responded by saying that their right wing is nothing like our right wing, and besides, their government swing right-left-right every three years). What I found interesting about it is they reported on an international organization that is working to swing countries all over the world to right wing populism.

        This has me thinking that what is really going on here is is that late-stage capitalism has created a world where a few ultra-wealthy activists are working to control governments everywhere to shape politics to their advantage. In their preferred world, there are no limits on their business ventures, ordinary people cannot get in their way, and climate and environmental considerations have to be put to death. Because of the internet and social media, and their control of many media outlets, and the lack of restraint on the press as far as publishing only what is accurate, they can shape world opinion with disinformation without limits. Create alternate realities, control the culture. I have no doubt that Elon Musk's involvement in Trump's reelection has some nefarious aspects we may never learn about. These people want to own the world and bend it to their will. And they appear to have succeeded. Because of disinformation, the general public is focussed on entirely the wrong things.

        fear is the thief of dreams

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          @AndyD said in Reports from the heartland:

          "It's hard to summon up the kind of empathy which explains why someone votes for Donald Trump. It's hard to conceive of how someone could hear him talk of eugenics, could watch him slip into violent fantasies, could see this representation of all the most selfish and childish instincts in the human personality and think:
          yeah, I want more of that."

          Andy, who said that? (If it’s in the thread and I missed it, apologies)

          Anyway, I get this. For many of us, it’s very hard to have any empathy toward anyone who supports Trump because what we see first and foremost are these elements: the eugenics, the racism, the misogyny, the hate, the narcissism…

          Somehow, many people, when they look at Trump, don’t see those things as primary, if they see them at all. Or, like those looking at the leopard, somehow, magically, think it doesn’t apply to them.

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          @ShiroKuro
          Quote is from one of the better UK newspapers, the i.

          Talking of foreign press, Trump isn't popular in Germany and this weeks Die Zeit was amusingly concise with a piece headlined in bold:
          F***

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            @ShiroKuro
            Quote is from one of the better UK newspapers, the i.

            Talking of foreign press, Trump isn't popular in Germany and this weeks Die Zeit was amusingly concise with a piece headlined in bold:
            F***

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            @AndyD said in Reports from the heartland:

            this weeks Die Zeit was amusingly concise with a piece headlined in bold:
            F***

            😁

            I decided to take a look at Die Zeit and came across this article about red bubbles and blue bubbles.

            https://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/2024-11/us-campaign-tiktok-social-media-democrats-republicans

            And a quick aside...it's great to have you here on a regular basis! I appreciate your viewpoint and insights as someone who lives across the pond and who can share that perspective.

            Oh, and your dog is really sweet, too. 🐶

            When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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              Here’s the video of the interview with Klein and Frum.

              https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/10/politics/video/gps1110-why-trump-won

              When a transcript of the entire Fareed show is posted online, I'll link it in this thread.

              https://transcripts.cnn.com/show/fzgps/date/2024-11-10/segment/01

              When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                I agree with Frum that the Dems should have been bragging about the economy, not apologizing for it.

                fear is the thief of dreams

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                  @AndyD said in Reports from the heartland:

                  this weeks Die Zeit was amusingly concise with a piece headlined in bold:
                  F***

                  😁

                  I decided to take a look at Die Zeit and came across this article about red bubbles and blue bubbles.

                  https://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/2024-11/us-campaign-tiktok-social-media-democrats-republicans

                  And a quick aside...it's great to have you here on a regular basis! I appreciate your viewpoint and insights as someone who lives across the pond and who can share that perspective.

                  Oh, and your dog is really sweet, too. 🐶

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                  @wtg

                  Oh, and your dog is really sweet
                  20241106_181812.jpg

                  Currently got Neptune's sister Venus with us

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                    @wtg

                    Oh, and your dog is really sweet
                    20241106_181812.jpg

                    Currently got Neptune's sister Venus with us

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                    @AndyD
                    20241105_115211.jpg

                    She is a beautiful dog and an absolute live wire!

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                      Perhaps we need apet thread?

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