This keeps happening
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The gunman who opened fire Wednesday morning inside Apalachee High School in Winder, Georgia, is believed to be a 14-year-old boy, a law enforcement source tells CNN.
The source said it is not yet known whether the teen attended that school.
The suspect is alive and in custody, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation said in a post on X.
Four people were killed in the shooting, according to the GBI. Nine others were transported to hospitals with injuries.
Law enforcement sources said earlier approximately 30 people were injured in the shooting. It was unclear how many of those injuries are from gunshot wounds; the information is preliminary and subject to change.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/04/us/winder-ga-shooting-apalachee-high-school/index.html
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The shooter in this unrelated incident is 11.
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In the Georgia shooting, the 14 year old will be charged as an adult.
Two students and two teachers were killed.
When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier
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It keeps happening, and it feels like no one cares any more.
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@wtg said in This keeps happening:
In the Georgia shooting, the 14 year old will be charged as an adult.
Not that I don't sympathize with the victims and their loved ones, but a 14 year old is not an adult.
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Background on the shooter:
https://apnews.com/article/georgia-high-school-shooting-c3c97267a4dfff64a59e1605e515c2f9
Kids are being exposed to more and more adult situations and decisions than they were in the past, and I'm pretty sure they aren't equipped developmentally to make good, rational decisions.
@Axtremus said in This keeps happening:
a 14 year old is not an adult.
While I agree that he isn't physically an adult yet, what do you do with him from a legal perspective?
In this case I'd be leaning toward treating him as an adult.
When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier
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The father has been arrested and charged. He bought the gun for his son as Christmas present, months after the police had contacted the family about the possibility that the son had made online threats about shooting up a middle school.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/05/us/winder-georgia-shooting-apalachee-high-school/index.html
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@wtg said in [This keeps happening]:
@Axtremus said in This keeps happening:
a 14 year old is not an adult.
While I agree that he isn't physically an adult yet, what do you do with him from a legal perspective?
The law has a definition for "child" and a definition for "adult." Legally treating a 14 year old as an "adult" is more an exception than the norm. I'd rather the law operates close to the norm than making many exceptions.
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Who buys their 14 year old ---- any 14 year old, let alone one who has already been questioned by the cops for making school shooting threats ---- an AR-15 for CHRISTMAS??????
I hope the dad rots in jail for the rest of his life.
Not sure about the kid - at 14, his brain is not fully developed, which is the reason there's a "child" category for criminal charges in the first place. On the other hand, 4 people are dead, the kid is clearly disturbed, and can he really be rehabilitated? Charging him as a child means he's probably out of jail by the time he's 21 -- and then what?
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I cannot understand how a 14 year old can be charged as an adult. He's not an adult. He can't think like an adult. Not even close.
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Ironic that the prosecutor is also charging the father. What? You want the father to be responsible for the action of an "adult"?
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I’m also not comfortable with charging a 14 year old as an adult. Is there some middle path between “charged as child, out at 21” and “charged as an adult, in for life”?
Another question I have is what is the benefit of charging as adult, and who reaps that benefit? What have previous cases have taught us about charging children in these different ways, either as an adult or as a child. Does charging children as adults prevent future crimes (by them or others)? Does it benefit society? Or does it only benefit the victims’ (and society’s) desire for punishment?
I think it might sound like I’m posing these as rhetoricals, like I already think there’s an answer, but that’s not the case. I don’t really know anything about this sort of thing, so if there’s some real benefit to charging as adult, beyond the victims’ desire for punishment, then that’s would be a compelling reason to do it.
But if the main benefit is that desire for punishment, then I’m not sure that’s enough justification.
Separate from that, to @Axtremus ’s point, I thought the reason for charging the father was as much because he supplied the weapon as anything else, so to me, that’s not a contradiction.
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The evolution of the juvenile justice system.
Seven states use 16 as the upper age for juvenile court jurisdiction (Georgia, Louisiana, Michigan, Missouri, Texas, and Wisconsin).
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• Suspect will be tried as an adult: Colt Gray, who is being held at the Georgia Department of Juvenile Justice, is slated to remain there while in custody until he turns 17, Glenn Allen, the agency’s spokesperson, told CNN Thursday. Under Georgia law, a juvenile aged 13 to 17 who commits a serious crime is automatically tried as an adult..
https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/07/us/apalachee-school-shooting-georgia-saturday/index.html
