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    wtg
    wrote on 20 Jan 2025, 01:22 last edited by
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    The big picture: Imagine a world where complex tasks aren't delegated to humans. Instead, they're executed with the precision, speed, and creativity you'd expect from a Ph.D.-level professional.

    We're talking about super-agents — AI tools designed to tackle messy, multilayered, real-world problems that human minds struggle to organize and conquer.

    They don't just respond to a single command; they pursue a goal. Super agents synthesize massive amounts of information, analyze options and deliver products.

    https://www.axios.com/2025/01/19/ai-superagent-openai-meta

    When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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      Bernard
      wrote on 20 Jan 2025, 05:16 last edited by
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      I'm so sick of AI already. I'm not a fan. It's artificial, but it's not intelligence. Fine. If it's going to be useful, let's discuss the pros and cons and try to foresee future problems and deal with them now. But it's being hoisted on society with very little meaningful discussion. We haven't even solved the problem of robotics yet, and already we are witnessing masses of people clinging to an autocrat.

      Nobody seems to be considering what to do with a massive population for which there are no manufacturing jobs: gone overseas, taken over by robots, and soon even more will be lost to the new technology of AI. What is the purpose of society if not to provide for human beings? If robots and AI are going to do the work, then it seems to me every robot and AI should be taxed enough to support the hordes of citizens who can't find meaningful work.

      Obviously, I'm not a fan of AI. I'm fully confident the human brain is capable of providing all that is needed for human beings' well being.

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        Axtremus
        wrote on 20 Jan 2025, 05:43 last edited by
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        Ooh, I’ve got an idea — let’s use AI to figure out what to do with a massive population for which there are no manufacturing jobs!

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          Steve Miller
          wrote on 20 Jan 2025, 12:33 last edited by
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          Great idea! 👍

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            20 Jan 2025, 05:16

            I'm so sick of AI already. I'm not a fan. It's artificial, but it's not intelligence. Fine. If it's going to be useful, let's discuss the pros and cons and try to foresee future problems and deal with them now. But it's being hoisted on society with very little meaningful discussion. We haven't even solved the problem of robotics yet, and already we are witnessing masses of people clinging to an autocrat.

            Nobody seems to be considering what to do with a massive population for which there are no manufacturing jobs: gone overseas, taken over by robots, and soon even more will be lost to the new technology of AI. What is the purpose of society if not to provide for human beings? If robots and AI are going to do the work, then it seems to me every robot and AI should be taxed enough to support the hordes of citizens who can't find meaningful work.

            Obviously, I'm not a fan of AI. I'm fully confident the human brain is capable of providing all that is needed for human beings' well being.

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            Mik
            wrote on 20 Jan 2025, 15:16 last edited by
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            @Bernard said in Ph.D.-level AI:

            I'm so sick of AI already. I'm not a fan. It's artificial, but it's not intelligence. Fine. If it's going to be useful, let's discuss the pros and cons and try to foresee future problems and deal with them now. But it's being hoisted on society with very little meaningful discussion. We haven't even solved the problem of robotics yet, and already we are witnessing masses of people clinging to an autocrat.

            Nobody seems to be considering what to do with a massive population for which there are no manufacturing jobs: gone overseas, taken over by robots, and soon even more will be lost to the new technology of AI. What is the purpose of society if not to provide for human beings? If robots and AI are going to do the work, then it seems to me every robot and AI should be taxed enough to support the hordes of citizens who can't find meaningful work.

            Obviously, I'm not a fan of AI. I'm fully confident the human brain is capable of providing all that is needed for human beings' well being.

            I’m with you Bernard.

            “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
            ― Douglas Adams

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              wtg
              wrote on 20 Jan 2025, 15:17 last edited by
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              As am I.

              When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                20 Jan 2025, 05:16

                I'm so sick of AI already. I'm not a fan. It's artificial, but it's not intelligence. Fine. If it's going to be useful, let's discuss the pros and cons and try to foresee future problems and deal with them now. But it's being hoisted on society with very little meaningful discussion. We haven't even solved the problem of robotics yet, and already we are witnessing masses of people clinging to an autocrat.

                Nobody seems to be considering what to do with a massive population for which there are no manufacturing jobs: gone overseas, taken over by robots, and soon even more will be lost to the new technology of AI. What is the purpose of society if not to provide for human beings? If robots and AI are going to do the work, then it seems to me every robot and AI should be taxed enough to support the hordes of citizens who can't find meaningful work.

                Obviously, I'm not a fan of AI. I'm fully confident the human brain is capable of providing all that is needed for human beings' well being.

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                ShiroKuro
                wrote on 20 Jan 2025, 16:17 last edited by
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                @Bernard said in Ph.D.-level AI:

                It's artificial, but it's not intelligence.

                Yep. Add to this, not original, and far too obvious.

                I have a unit I do with my students to walk them through what AI is, how it works, what kinds of tasks it might be useful for, and what kinds of tasks we really should not be farming out to it. I continue to be surprised at the number of students who don't know what an LLM is or how it works. Then we give GenAI some prompts and evaluate the output, based on course content we've already covered. I am comforted that students generally have not been impressed and can see through the hype. So far...

                This semester, I had a student shyly approach me to ask if they could do an alternative assignment for the AI activity. I said "maybe, but why?" They said they are a conscientious objector and don't want to use it themselves. Ahh, in that case, of course. We haven't figured out yet what the alternative assignment will be, but we will.

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