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    Daniel
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    Well, I've said I don't think his thoughts are original. It follows from my premise that nobody here could make choices similar or dissimilar to the ones he made. If my theory is correct, he has been the victim of psychological torture. I think all of it, the entire situation, is an indictment of the ways our society addresses healthcare. I've always tended to think we could and should do better. Yet when I think about it, I don't think there is any other aspect of the ways society addresses basic human needs that is any more fair, just, or logical. I've said this before but I think an individual's opportunities and achieved outcomes in life are much more random than most people believe. This wouldn't be surprising given we are all told by society that such opportunities and achievements aren't random at all.

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      Daniel
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      @Mik Medicare Advantage. It's not Medicare and it's not an advantage.

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        Mik
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        It's OK until you get sick. Then you're in for problems. I'll just pay my premiums, thank you.

        Two big factors in American health statistics are diabetes and obesity. Musk has proposed that GLP-1 drugs be made very cheap. He might be right.

        “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
        ― Douglas Adams

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          Sometimes people have to light their torches and go to the castle and burn it down.
          The problem with pro-gun control marches are that those that are pro-gun know they are under no threat of harm.

          “I’m at an age when remembering something right away is as good as an orgasm.”—Gloria Steinem to Julia Louis-Dreyfus on Wiser Than Me

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            CHAS
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            John F. Kennedy: 'Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.'

            “I’m at an age when remembering something right away is as good as an orgasm.”—Gloria Steinem to Julia Louis-Dreyfus on Wiser Than Me

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              Our brave new world.... ?

              https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/12/decivilization-political-violence-civil-society/680961/

              Crazy economist who likes to write about higher education.

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                Our brave new world.... ?

                https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/12/decivilization-political-violence-civil-society/680961/

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                CHAS
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                @Piano-Dad Darn, I dropped my subscription. May renew.

                “I’m at an age when remembering something right away is as good as an orgasm.”—Gloria Steinem to Julia Louis-Dreyfus on Wiser Than Me

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                  To make this situation even more complicated, in fairness, we have to consider the possibility that this was a set up,:

                  Link to video

                  Tyson Delacruz commentary.

                  We have to remember that he is the alleged perpetrator, legally innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

                  There's definitely something about this situation that seem very strange and disconcerting to me.

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                    CHAS
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                    IMO this opinion this murder is different because of who was killed. Kyle Rittenhouse is free. George Zimmerman is also free.

                    “I’m at an age when remembering something right away is as good as an orgasm.”—Gloria Steinem to Julia Louis-Dreyfus on Wiser Than Me

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                      The State of Florida took a fall in the George Zimmerman case. Every member of law enforcement and of the judiciary involved in that case deserves nothing but infamy and contempt imo.

                      I'm not sure if we agree or not but I think we agree. This homicide is different from most others in the sense it meets the definition of an "assassination" imo.

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                        I’m seeing calls for the release of Luigi based on the Zimmerman case.

                        Yikes!

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                          Daniel
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                          WTF.

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                            He’s raised over $100K for legal fees. Unreal. We have lost the ability to reason.

                            “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
                            ― Douglas Adams

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                              He’s raised over $100K for legal fees. Unreal. We have lost the ability to reason.

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                              @Mik said in The Manifesto:

                              He’s raised over $100K for legal fees. Unreal. We have lost the ability to reason.

                              Yep.

                              😞

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                                Smerconish’s opening commentary this morning.

                                https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/14/us/video/smr-commentary-on-tragic-deaths-after-ceo-death

                                When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                                  Daniel
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                                  I think he's a patsy. This isn't the same person.

                                  Link to video

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                                    Steve Miller
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                                    The ballistics say the bullets match the gun that he had on him was captured.

                                    They got the right guy.

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                                      Daniel
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                                      The photographs don't match .

                                      Also, the ballistics evidence must be proven in court.

                                      In fact, if and when he's prosecuted, the prosecution's entire case must be proven in court.

                                      Also, if he were a patsy, it doesn't mean he wasn't
                                      involved.

                                      But, I return to the photographs. They're just not the same person.

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                                        wtg
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                                        The driver’s license that Mangione had on him at the time he was arrested is the same one that was used at the hostel to check in when the clerk asked him to pull down the mask. Apparently she thought the photo on the DL looked like the guy standing in front of her.

                                        Mangione will have his day in court. Of course all physical evidence (photos, DNA, knapsack found in Central Park, fingerprints, writings) will have to be presented in court and experts will opine. Witnesses will testify. I’m sure the hostel clerk will be one of them, probably along with any number of others with whom he interacted along the way. A jury will consider the totality of the information and render a verdict.

                                        Will be interesting to see what strategy his attorneys take to defend him.

                                        When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                                          He had multiple fake ID's. I don't think the fact he used one to check into the hostel is surprising. It is surprising one of the photographs given by authorities is not him. Just look at it.

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