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About that White House ballroom and the East Wing

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    Bernard
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    There is a certain amount of gray area in the matter of Andrew's status. And it's complicated! This is a good explanation...

    Link to video

    The industrial revolution cheapened everything.

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      Daniel
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      Interesting!

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        AndyD
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        He's been given the Order of the Boot

        Ventosa viri restabit

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          Daniel
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          All honors derive from the Sovereign, or I should say-- all honours derive from the Sovereign.

          The marriage of Charles and Camilla is all kinds of unlawful because it violated Parliamentary law.

          My view is this doesn't make his marriage illegitimate. It was performed through legal process. It's not illegitimate.

          But there will be in asterisk next to it when historians consider it. And I have no doubt there is much to consider.

          I think Charles making the changes defacto was his high water mark so far. His "action man" persona wasn't ready for prime time. Everyone's a critic.

          It reminded me of the myth about a rope nobody can untie. The hero breaks it in two with his sword.

          William will get what he wants from Parliament, if necessary.

          There is no other person who could be the next king without the monarchy falling. imo.

          I think a lot will be made of the fact he is a new generation, confidence inspiring, whatever.

          He can't stand Andrew. They have some negative family history.

          Andrew and and Markle are persons he thinks about while being in his "ruthless prince" mode. Catherine shares his opinion.

          It doesn't look good for the dastardly duos.

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            He's been given the Order of the Boot

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            Daniel
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            @AndyD said in About that White House ballroom and the East Wing:

            He's been given the Order of the Boot

            Lol!

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              wtg
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              Just in case he forgets where/what it is.

              A new sign was spotted adorning the White House this week, prompting backlash from lawmakers who have noted that Donald Trump is quite literally gilding the White House during a government shutdown.

              Trump has been remaking the White House in his own image with the recent dramatic demolition of the East Wing and active construction of a new ballroom, doing so with plenty of gold. Written in cursive gold script, a sign identifying the Oval Office is now affixed beside the office鈥檚 door.

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              https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/05/trump-oval-office-sign

              When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aum么nier

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                Daniel
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                Is this a joke? A 1st grade student could have done a better job.

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                  AndyD
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                  Looks like it's on paper, perhaps waiting for a signwriter to attend?
                  Whether you like the script or not, some things are unnecessary.

                  Ventosa viri restabit

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                    Daniel
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                    And unseemly.

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                      Looks like it's on paper, perhaps waiting for a signwriter to attend?
                      Whether you like the script or not, some things are unnecessary.

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                      @AndyD said in About that White House ballroom and the East Wing:

                      some things are unnecessary

                      Including the gold monstrosity over the doorway....

                      When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aum么nier

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                        @AndyD said in About that White House ballroom and the East Wing:

                        some things are unnecessary

                        Including the gold monstrosity over the doorway....

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                        Bernard
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                        @wtg It looks like a bad DIY. Anyone with a bit of taste would have toned down the gold with antiquing wax. Well, put it this way.... anyone with a bit of taste wouldn't have put those cheap looking filigrees there in the first place.

                        The industrial revolution cheapened everything.

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                          AndyD
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                          Corporate Trump I'm afraid. His taste appears to be extreme 'new money'.

                          Ventosa viri restabit

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                            wtg
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                            Says it all.

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                            edit: And no, it's not AI.

                            https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-37928024

                            When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aum么nier

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                              It might not be I but it's definitely A.

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                                wtg
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                                Next up: The Reflecting Pool?

                                https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5623734-trump-burgum-fix-lincoln-pool/

                                When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aum么nier

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                                  It's a front for a centralized command center. Nothing we've been told and shown about it makes sense to reputable architects and builders.

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                                    Corporate Trump I'm afraid. His taste appears to be extreme 'new money'.

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                                    @AndyD said in About that White House ballroom and the East Wing:

                                    Corporate Trump I'm afraid. His taste appears to be extreme 'new money'.

                                    I guess you had to be there but in '80's New York there were a group of new money families who were venerated to the nth degree.

                                    Reagan came into office and the country was inundated with the myth of getting what you earned no matter who you were or how you started.

                                    And, likewise, being to blame for any lack of opportunity or misfortune you might suffer.

                                    None of these families lasted very long as others have in the past. Note Trump's multiple bankruptcies. Of course, Trump got nowhere on his own merits.

                                    He grew up in an upper-middle class neighborhood in Queens. You can hear his Queens accent, but any notion of class clearly went over his head.

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