Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Brite
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Brand Logo

WTF-Beta

  1. Home
  2. Categories
  3. Off Key - General Discussion
  4. Work on the house

Work on the house

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Off Key - General Discussion
18 Posts 7 Posters 96 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • B Bernard

    My contractor emailed me last Friday and said he could start my latest project Monday. OK, short notice, but I was happy to hear from him. After the accident and the ensuing flight of monies out of here, I had considered postponing until spring. But on second thought decided that there needs to be some positive developments in addition to the negatives lately.

    So he was here Monday and tore out the wood paneled wall in the living room. When I moved here, the inside wall and the outside wall were paneled in dark stained, solid wood paneling. A few years ago I had the inside wall paneling cut down to wainscoting and then papered the top of the wall.

    He'll be installing sheetrock (moisture barrier and insulation first) on this exterior wall, which I'll paint to match two of the other walls, leaving the wainscoting wall as a focal wall.

    Next project after this is to get rid of the hideous ceiling and replace it with sheetrock, but that will be next spring.

    This picture from some years back, shows the dark paneling.
    3271.JPG

    Here is what the wall looks like since Monday.
    9291.JPG
    9292.JPG

    I love the fact that my house is not clad in plywood or OSB (are they the same thing?).

    Big_AlB Offline
    Big_AlB Offline
    Big_Al
    wrote last edited by
    #9

    @Bernard said in Work on the house:

    I love the fact that my house is not clad in plywood or OSB (are they the same thing?).

    Definitely not the same thing. Plywood is made by gluing sheets of wood veneer in alternating grain directions into a thicker sheet. A lot of the veneer is cut in rotary fashion from logs. Some plywood destined for furniture or similar uses may have the exterior layer on one or both sides made from flat-sawn veneer, typically a good hardwood.

    OSB (oriented strand board) is made by chipping wood into strands (fairly large thin pieces) that are mixed with glue and usually some water-repellent. The strands are then laid down in a fashion that aims to largely orient the strands in layers with alternating grain direction and the resultant mat is compressed and heated to activate the glue and form the board.

    OSB allows timber that is not suitable for lumber or plywood manufacture to be used in the production of a material useful for sheathing, subflooring for floors and roofs, and similar applications.

    (Full disclosure: I worked on start-up of the first production-scale plant for what eventually became OSB in northern Minnesota in 1972-73)

    What are the walls of your house made of? I can see boards in the pictures, but I don’t know what exterior material may exist outside that sheath.

    Big Al

    Money seems to buy the most happiness when you give it away.

    Why does everything have to be so complicated, all in the name of convenience. -ShiroKuro

    A lifetime of experience will change a person. If it doesn't, then you're already dead inside. -MarkJ

    B 1 Reply Last reply
    • Big_AlB Big_Al

      @Bernard said in Work on the house:

      I love the fact that my house is not clad in plywood or OSB (are they the same thing?).

      Definitely not the same thing. Plywood is made by gluing sheets of wood veneer in alternating grain directions into a thicker sheet. A lot of the veneer is cut in rotary fashion from logs. Some plywood destined for furniture or similar uses may have the exterior layer on one or both sides made from flat-sawn veneer, typically a good hardwood.

      OSB (oriented strand board) is made by chipping wood into strands (fairly large thin pieces) that are mixed with glue and usually some water-repellent. The strands are then laid down in a fashion that aims to largely orient the strands in layers with alternating grain direction and the resultant mat is compressed and heated to activate the glue and form the board.

      OSB allows timber that is not suitable for lumber or plywood manufacture to be used in the production of a material useful for sheathing, subflooring for floors and roofs, and similar applications.

      (Full disclosure: I worked on start-up of the first production-scale plant for what eventually became OSB in northern Minnesota in 1972-73)

      What are the walls of your house made of? I can see boards in the pictures, but I don’t know what exterior material may exist outside that sheath.

      Big Al

      B Offline
      B Offline
      Bernard
      wrote last edited by
      #10

      @Big_Al Wow! Thanks Big Al for the clear explanation. Cool that you have that connection to the birth of OSB.

      Outside the visible boards is a covering of tar paper, and on top of that, board and batten. In fact, the contractor's quote included covering the inside of the wall with a moisture barrier before insulating, but when he discovered the tar paper, decided against it. On the other sides of the house, clapboard cover the main portion of the walls, with board and batten in the front gable.

      The industrial revolution cheapened everything.

      Big_AlB 1 Reply Last reply
      • S Offline
        S Offline
        Steve Miller
        wrote last edited by
        #11

        I like that your drywaller “picture framed” around the window.

        It’s one mark of quality job

        B 1 Reply Last reply
        • B Bernard

          Contractor finished up his part yesterday. Whew. It really is disruptive!

          Current state of the wall:
          1091.JPG
          1092.JPG

          I need to prime and paint and install a bit of temporary trip top and bottom. Will need to live with the ceiling as it is until springtime.

          I bought the primer yesterday, but with paint over $90 a gallon, and the fact that the store has a 40% off sale starting next Friday, I won't paint until I can get it on sale. But I am moving some of the big pieces in rough position because I can't stand to live another week with everything piled up on one side of the room!

          ShiroKuroS Offline
          ShiroKuroS Offline
          ShiroKuro
          wrote last edited by
          #12

          Wow, @Bernard that's going to be great when everything is done!

          @Bernard said in Work on the house:

          with paint over $90 a gallon

          Yikes!!

          B 1 Reply Last reply
          • S Steve Miller

            I like that your drywaller “picture framed” around the window.

            It’s one mark of quality job

            B Offline
            B Offline
            Bernard
            wrote last edited by
            #13

            @Steve-Miller What does that mean, Steve?

            The industrial revolution cheapened everything.

            1 Reply Last reply
            • ShiroKuroS ShiroKuro

              Wow, @Bernard that's going to be great when everything is done!

              @Bernard said in Work on the house:

              with paint over $90 a gallon

              Yikes!!

              B Offline
              B Offline
              Bernard
              wrote last edited by
              #14

              @ShiroKuro I know, right? I'd go for a cheaper brand, except that I need to match the paint I used on the other wall 2 years ago and it was Sherwin-Williams Emerald interior laytex. $93.99/gal. But I'll get it for around $56 when it's on sale.

              The industrial revolution cheapened everything.

              ShiroKuroS 1 Reply Last reply
              • B Bernard

                @ShiroKuro I know, right? I'd go for a cheaper brand, except that I need to match the paint I used on the other wall 2 years ago and it was Sherwin-Williams Emerald interior laytex. $93.99/gal. But I'll get it for around $56 when it's on sale.

                ShiroKuroS Offline
                ShiroKuroS Offline
                ShiroKuro
                wrote last edited by
                #15

                @Bernard When Mr. SK painted literally every wall in the house we bought in 2019, I learned a lot about paint and I am of the opinion that using good paint is a non-negotiable.

                But also, those sales are always recurring, fortunately!

                1 Reply Last reply
                • B Bernard

                  @Big_Al Wow! Thanks Big Al for the clear explanation. Cool that you have that connection to the birth of OSB.

                  Outside the visible boards is a covering of tar paper, and on top of that, board and batten. In fact, the contractor's quote included covering the inside of the wall with a moisture barrier before insulating, but when he discovered the tar paper, decided against it. On the other sides of the house, clapboard cover the main portion of the walls, with board and batten in the front gable.

                  Big_AlB Offline
                  Big_AlB Offline
                  Big_Al
                  wrote last edited by
                  #16

                  @Bernard said in Work on the house:

                  Outside the visible boards is a covering of tar paper, and on top of that, board and batten. In fact, the contractor's quote included covering the inside of the wall with a moisture barrier before insulating, but when he discovered the tar paper, decided against it. On the other sides of the house, clapboard cover the main portion of the walls, with board and batten in the front gable.

                  Glad to hear he's being careful with the vapor barrier. Old houses were relatively free-breathing, but with insulation and restrictions to air and moisture flows, condensation within wall cavities has become a serious concern if not properly addressed.

                  Big Al

                  Money seems to buy the most happiness when you give it away.

                  Why does everything have to be so complicated, all in the name of convenience. -ShiroKuro

                  A lifetime of experience will change a person. If it doesn't, then you're already dead inside. -MarkJ

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  👍
                  • S Offline
                    S Offline
                    Steve Miller
                    wrote last edited by Steve Miller
                    #17

                    Like this:

                    image.jpeg

                    Area around window is all cut out of a continuous sheet of drywall. If you do it in three pieces you’ll probably end up with cracks.

                    B 1 Reply Last reply
                    👍
                    • S Steve Miller

                      Like this:

                      image.jpeg

                      Area around window is all cut out of a continuous sheet of drywall. If you do it in three pieces you’ll probably end up with cracks.

                      B Offline
                      B Offline
                      Bernard
                      wrote last edited by
                      #18

                      @Steve-Miller Thanks!

                      The industrial revolution cheapened everything.

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      Reply
                      • Reply as topic
                      Log in to reply
                      • Oldest to Newest
                      • Newest to Oldest
                      • Most Votes


                      Powered by NodeBB | Contributors
                      • Login

                      • Don't have an account? Register

                      • Login or register to search.
                      • First post
                        Last post
                      0
                      • Categories
                      • Recent
                      • Tags
                      • Popular
                      • Users
                      • Groups