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Gargening help! Can my weigelia be saved?

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  • ShiroKuroS Online
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    wrote last edited by ShiroKuro
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    My weigelia looks like it's dead on one side, the other side is greened up and flowers are out. This has been such an odd spring, with warm days and cold days, I thought it was just coming out lopsided because of the weather, but now I'm afraid my weigelia is either dying, or being attacked. Let me go grab some photos.

    Here's the bush:
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    See the random branches on the left? As far as I can tell, that's coming out from the bottom middle of the left side, it looks to be entwined to me.

    This bush was so beautiful last year, I'm afraid it may be a lost cause 😞

    Here's what it looks like on one side right now, IOW what it's supposed to look like all over:
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    Here's what I assume is the invader:
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    My plant identifying app identifies this as a type of pear, it comes up with a few options, including the Bradford, which I know is super invasive. Mr. SK said he'll try to get in there and take that part out, but does anyone know if there's anything we can do to save the weigelia bush?

    Also, I'm not confident we'll be easily able to extract all of the invader, so if anyone has any advice about that, please share!

    thank you in advance!

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      Weigelia can be cut back--so I've read, I've never grown one. You might cut the whole thing down to the ground and see what comes up?

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        Weigelia can be cut back--so I've read, I've never grown one. You might cut the whole thing down to the ground and see what comes up?

        ShiroKuroS Online
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        @Bernard said in Gargening help! Can my weigelia be saved?:

        You might cut the whole thing down to the ground and see what comes up?

        Yeah, I was just reading about that. Oof, cutting the whole thing down to the ground might be the thing to do, but it will make such a hole there... 😞

        I'll have to see if I can find a pic from last year, it was so pretty. 😞

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        • ShiroKuroS Online
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          Here’s what it looked like last July before Mr SK shaped it.

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            You might consider cutting back the half that’s dead; it won’t be any worse. And that could give you access to your invader, which you could take back down to the ground.

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              I don't have a lot of experience with weigela. I bought a shrub many years ago but it never did well. I blamed the lack of sun in my yard.

              A few general observations related to the photos you posted, based on my garden experiences...

              Plants with variegated leaves generally aren't as robust as their solid green leaf cousins. Also, some shurbs just have an annoying habit of sudden dieback. American cranberry bush viburnum do it like crazy. I had a beautiful shrub and after three or four years large portions of it just up and died. My neighbor planted one and it's doing the same thing. Redbud trees also do it.

              I don't know if dieback is an issue with weigela, but you might look up "weigela winter dieback" or "sun scald" and see what comes up. The fact that it looked good last year but didn't leaf out on one side might be related to something that happened during the winter. Here are some things you could look at:

              https://stonepostgardens.com/weigela-looks-dead-after-winter/

              TBH, given that one half of the shrub has leafed out and is blooming, and the other side looks like it does, I think that side of the shrub is dead and I'm thinking you'll have to cut the dead branches to the ground and hope that you get new growth from the base.

              Another note - the weigela hasn't been pruned properly over the years. It looks like the ends of the branches have been pruned to maintain the desired size. This results in witches' brooms, with all the new growth at the ends of the older branches coming up from the ground. Some of that old wood needs to come out to provide air circulation and to encourage growth from the base. Here's a guide to pruning weigela:

              https://horticulture.co.uk/weigela/pruning/

              I don't recognize the other thing, the invader. The red stem is distinctive, am thinking that will help identify it. The ag extension folks at the uni could probably ID it in short order and tell you what to do if it's one of those invasive pears.

              When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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              • wtgW wtg

                I don't have a lot of experience with weigela. I bought a shrub many years ago but it never did well. I blamed the lack of sun in my yard.

                A few general observations related to the photos you posted, based on my garden experiences...

                Plants with variegated leaves generally aren't as robust as their solid green leaf cousins. Also, some shurbs just have an annoying habit of sudden dieback. American cranberry bush viburnum do it like crazy. I had a beautiful shrub and after three or four years large portions of it just up and died. My neighbor planted one and it's doing the same thing. Redbud trees also do it.

                I don't know if dieback is an issue with weigela, but you might look up "weigela winter dieback" or "sun scald" and see what comes up. The fact that it looked good last year but didn't leaf out on one side might be related to something that happened during the winter. Here are some things you could look at:

                https://stonepostgardens.com/weigela-looks-dead-after-winter/

                TBH, given that one half of the shrub has leafed out and is blooming, and the other side looks like it does, I think that side of the shrub is dead and I'm thinking you'll have to cut the dead branches to the ground and hope that you get new growth from the base.

                Another note - the weigela hasn't been pruned properly over the years. It looks like the ends of the branches have been pruned to maintain the desired size. This results in witches' brooms, with all the new growth at the ends of the older branches coming up from the ground. Some of that old wood needs to come out to provide air circulation and to encourage growth from the base. Here's a guide to pruning weigela:

                https://horticulture.co.uk/weigela/pruning/

                I don't recognize the other thing, the invader. The red stem is distinctive, am thinking that will help identify it. The ag extension folks at the uni could probably ID it in short order and tell you what to do if it's one of those invasive pears.

                ShiroKuroS Online
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                wrote last edited by ShiroKuro
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                Thanks for those links @wtg I googled about that the red stem and my uneducated conclusion is, it’s inconclusive 😅

                @wtg said in Gargening help! Can my weigelia be saved?:

                The fact that it looked good last year but didn't leaf out on one side might be related to something that happened during the winter.

                That was my original guess as well, but based on the location of the invader, I wondered if that could be choking out the roots on one side. But I wasn’t sure if that would make sense, in other words, if something is choking the roots, would it affect the whole plant or could it be localized like that.

                TBH, given that one half of the shrub has leafed out and is blooming, and the other side looks like it does, I think that side of the shrub is dead and I'm thinking you'll have to cut the dead branches to the ground and hope that you get new growth from the base.

                This is what I suspect to be the case, whatever the cause 😞

                Another note - the weigela hasn't been pruned properly over the years. It looks like the ends of the branches have been pruned to maintain the desired size. This results in witches' brooms, with all the new growth at the ends of the older branches coming up from the ground.

                Mr SK has been trying to learn more about this kind of thing. I don’t think our hydrangea had been pruned well either, so he cut it back in the fall and it seems to be doing well at this point.

                Here's a guide to pruning weigela:

                https://horticulture.co.uk/weigela/pruning/

                Thanks!

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                • ShiroKuroS Online
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                  BTW talking with Mr SK just now about the info in those links, he said he suspects that the problem is probably from the harsh winter we had this past year, and the invader is just a coincidence.

                  That seems pretty likely.

                  It doesn’t necessarily change what we have to do though. 😑

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                    I am pretty certain the invader is not the problem. A shrub the size of your weigela has a massive root system and there really isn’t any way the weed could damage it.

                    The only other thing that occurred to me is the downspout that looks like it drains near the weigela. I’m not super familiar with the water requirements of weigela, but I wonder if too much moisture could be the cause of the dieback.

                    Few homeowners and even most landscapers haven’t a clue as to what they are doing when it comes to pruning. You wouldn’t believe the massacred plants I’ve seen them leave behind in their wake. Pruning an important skill for a gardener to learn and I’m still terrified when I have to prune something, but fortunately there are lots of pruning guides and info available online.

                    When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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