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@wtg said in On them for life. Or else...:

four times faster

Yikes!!!

I meant to post this earlier...

I think @wtg gave us a nice summary of @andyd 's and @wtg 's takes on this issue:

I place the responsibility for the outcome much more on the agents than on her. You seem to be indicating that the blame is all on her because she didn't follow an order.

I just want to say for the record that I agree with @wtg

The ICE agents are acting not in good faith, they are behaving unethically and most likely illegally. They cover their faces, they are responsible for "disappearing people," and as @wtg points out, they consistently act like completely untrained idiots. They are terrorizing communities across the country, and they shouldn't have been in this community in the first place.

The responsibility for this tragedy rests fully on them.

@wtg

the whole episode was unnecessary escalation and is a result of the administration-induced hysteria. Constant chaos and knee jerk reactions.

This exactly.

Thanks!

@wtg said in In Minneapolis:

It’s from someone on Reddit.

Can you share a link?

I’ll check out the cnn link as well.

@wtg which article is this from?

This will keep happening. All over the country.

It is beyond wrong.

Bath

@wtg said in Marinara sauce taste test:

Onions

Shoot. I can't do onions, and neither can my mother.

We usually get Rao's, my favorite is to mix one jar of "sensitive" and one jar of "roasted garlic." Neither of those have onions.

I ended up not trying Mezzetta, which you posted about in the past, because it has onions too.

I'm quite happy with Rao's, it's just pricey (even on sale).

@RealPlayer said in Potential anti-aging treatments:

If I identify as as mouse, can I get the treatment now?

me too please!

@wtg oh wow, that does sound promising! I wonder how long it will take to get from this point in the research to where the product will be available for general medical treatment. I have osteoarthritis in both knees (worse in right) and in my thumbs, in addition to my ongoing feet problems, esp. Achilles tendonopathy, which is related to loss of collagen in the tendon. So it sounds like this could be relevant for all of those issues, and you would think that a pill-form treatment would have more global impact rather than being localized to knees only (for example).

IOW, I hope they hurry.

@jon-nyc OMG that would be funny except it's too accurate.

@RealPlayer said in You guys might understand this and might enjoy it:

371 chorales

Three hundred.... four hundred.... I've probably only played about ten, so ....

@Bernard said in Meanwhile, in Venezuela:

I hope this really, really pisses off the Maga base.

I wonder how many people will actually care. For too many Americans, it's "out of sight, out of mind" and only those with some connection to Latin America will care (although, having said that, there are a lot of Americans with LA connections...)

@Bernard that’s fascinating, thank you!!

Someone at PT shared info for Elaine Gould’s book on notation. I’ve never heard of Elaine Gould, but this seems pretty helpful as well.
https://forum.pianotell.com/d/2169-have-you-ever-seen-a-lunga-symbol-before-type-of-fermata/4

I found an entry here: https://dictionary.onmusic.org/terms/2023-long_pause
which describes “long pause” (and lists lunga pausa as the Italian) but there’s no symbol.

I also found a pdf version of Alfred's Essential Dictionary of Musical Notaton, and it only has the standard (rounded) fermata symbol.

Maybe I need to find a “complete dictionary” or even better, “dictionary of obscure musical symbols that only one composer ever uses” …

@Axtremus I also checked my music dictionary (an actual physical book!) and it doesn’t include this symbol.

I posted about this at Piano Tell, but I thought some of you (esp @realplayer @bernard ) might know more about this, so I hope it’s ok to share my post here as well.

I’m working on “Song For Gavin” by Ludovico Einaudi right now, hoping to record it soon, and I noticed this notation:

I have Einaudi’s recording of this piece, so when I was first learning it, I didn’t think too much about the notation because I know there’s a big pause right there before the next theme. (Plus I have a bad habit of not worrying about Einaudi’s instructions in Italian because he includes them so often, and because…. because Einaudi )

Anyway, now that I’m at the polishing stage and hoping to record this piece, I was going through the score and writing a few notes to myself and realized that not only did I not recognize the word “lunga,” I didn’t actually know what that symbol was. And it shows up four times in that measure across three beats!
So I figured I should look it up.

Lunga is apparently Italian for “long pause,” and sometimes is written “lungo” (in Italian) or “longa” (in English). (I don’t know enough about Italian to know why Einaudi wrote the feminine here, but I assume that’s the distinction between lungo and lunga.)

I didn’t find many images that showed this symbol the way Einaudi uses it (most showed a slightly different way of writing it), but I did find this graphic:

which suggests that the lunga fits under the umbrella of fermata and presumably a different type of fermata.

I have other scores by Einaudi where he uses a fermata, so it’s clearly not the case that he uses this symbol instead of a fermata. I assume he means the lunga to be somehow different from the fermata. In terms of how to play this particular piece, I’m not worried about it (because I can hear it, in the recording and in my head). But it’s interesting to think about the subtle differences in musical symbols and wonder what the composer intends.

Also, it’s sort of surprising to me to come across an unfamiliar symbol at this stage in my piano trajectory, especially in a contemporary piece, and in music by a composer whose music I have played so much of. I wonder if anyone is asking Einaudi these kinds of questions. I certainly hope so! He’s still actively concertizing, but he will eventually retire and so on.

Anyway, have you ever seen a lunga? In classical music or contemporary?

@Steve-Miller thanks for posting that Steve, I’ll watch it later.

@realplayer I have the big Bach chorale book (this one:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0989087913?ref_=ppx_hzod_title_dt_b_fed_asin_title_0_0) which I bought for sightreading practice, but I found it to be too hard for a “one a day” approach, so I haven’t played from it many years. (although my Amazon purchase record tells me that I bought it in 2014. After 12 years, maybe I’d find it easier now…)

But I love the chordal movement there.

Re Abide By Me, I think it’s been arranged and recorded by a lot of contemporary pianist/composers (like Nevue). Here’s a version I really like:

Link to video