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Have You Ever Gone Nose-to-Nose With a Deer?

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    Just thought of something..was that deer a total fluke, or are they regularly in the area? Thinking about deer ticks and Lyme disease…I’m guessing Phil is on flea and tick preventive but you guys probably aren’t. 😉 Stay alert for signs of the famous bull’s eye rash.

    When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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    • wtgW wtg

      Just thought of something..was that deer a total fluke, or are they regularly in the area? Thinking about deer ticks and Lyme disease…I’m guessing Phil is on flea and tick preventive but you guys probably aren’t. 😉 Stay alert for signs of the famous bull’s eye rash.

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      @wtg There are many deer in town. We stayed at an AirBnb a couple of years ago where we regularly woke up to six deer in the small back yard.

      Phil met his new vet on Saturday, who immediately scheduled him for the Lyme vaccine, so you are right on target.

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        I did not know there was a Lyme vaccine. I did hear Monday there are promising trials on immunotherapy for canine cancers.

        “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
        ― Douglas Adams

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          A canine Lyme vaccine has been around for a while. I'm not super up to speed on them because that particular vaccination is considered non-core in our area. The early version was apparently not terribly effective and it had a lot of side effects, so I don't think it was in very wide use. I think newer versions have beare now available, one from Merck and one from Boehringer.

          When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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            I did not know there was a Lyme vaccine. I did hear Monday there are promising trials on immunotherapy for canine cancers.

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            @Mik

            Am curious...which cancer(s)? A vaccine for oral melanoma has been around for a while.

            When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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              I think it's more internal cancers - bone, blood vessel, etc.

              “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
              ― Douglas Adams

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                I see the recent news. Osteosarcoma, pretty amazing. Has always been a death sentence.

                https://news.yale.edu/2024/03/05/novel-cancer-vaccine-offers-new-hope-dogs-and-those-who-love-them

                Also saw some earlier news releases about other vaccines, including one for glioblastoma, another deadly cancer.

                When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                  Just thought of something..was that deer a total fluke, or are they regularly in the area? Thinking about deer ticks and Lyme disease…I’m guessing Phil is on flea and tick preventive but you guys probably aren’t. 😉 Stay alert for signs of the famous bull’s eye rash.

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                  @wtg he’s on a preventative and supposed to get the Lyme disease vaccine … which, for reasons that are not clear, has only been developed for dogs and not for humans.

                  I asked my vet why once, and he said there wasn’t enough money in it.

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                    Human Lyme vaccine history - 2021

                    When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                      Canine Lyme and leptospirosis vaccines have the highest rate of side effects. And the need for them tends to be regional, so they aren't included in the core vaccine protocols and they get bumped to non-core and are administered when the risk of the disease outweighs the risk of possible side effects. Almost no vets around here do Lyme, but some do lepto even though it's not a very good vaccine. But incidence of lepto is on the rise, so it's better than nothing.

                      I had Lyme in 2019 after a trip to our Door County house. Lots of deer in the area. Never saw a tick, but a few days after I got back I got the rash on my neck. My PCP thought I had some kind of heat or allergic rash and was going to send me off to the dermatologist, but I alerted him as to where I had recently traveled. He said he doubted it was Lyme but ordered the blood tests anyway. Came back positive big time (doc was pretty surprised at my immune response) and I went on doxycycline for three weeks. My rash subsided by half after the first dose of the antibiotic. Haven't had any problems since. Glad I didn't get chronic Lyme, which can be nasty.

                      When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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