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    Steve Miller
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    Threw out the wheat starter made from the dehydrated mix. It never did anything. Keeping the rye starter.

    The rye one didn’t die but it hasn’t done much either. No mold, nice smell, fluffy with bubbles but never changes size. Using bottled drinking water, 1:1:1 ratio, 95F. Now I’m intrigued. People have been doing this for 1000s of years. It’s not supposed to be this hard.

    Next up - proofing box. Playmate cooler, jar of hot tap water. I can refill the jar with water when it cools off. Right now it’s sitting at 76F. Temp in house is 69F so it should never go below that.

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      Steve Miller
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      Thoughts on the Pullman loaf pan.

      My sister spent some years as a professional baker. CIA, Etc. she always told me that cookies and such all must be made small and perfect - that only amateurs made big shaggy cookies like I did. Her breads are like your Pullman loaf, her cinnamon rolls are perfect little rounds. Very nice, very professional.

      But I’m not convinced that is what I want. I’m attracted to the crusty, gnarly loaves I see on the internet. Boudin loaves were somewhere in between, but the Tartine loaf was particularly rustic.

      If I ever get to the bread making stage I think I’ll start there.

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        I don't think I've ever met a bread I didn't like. I love the crusty sourdough breads I've been making, but I gotta tell you that Pullman sandwich loaf was wonderful in its own way. I mean, how can you have a proper egg and cress sandwich on anything but sandwich bread?

        I was on the hairy edge of getting rid of all of my bread cookbooks (Bernard Clayton, Beth Hensperger, and some others) but now I'm thinking I might hang on to them and do some experimenting. So many carbs, not enough time!

        One of the Clayton books has a plan for building an outdoor bread baking oven. Mr wtg would kill me.

        When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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          Steve Miller
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          😀😀😀

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            Steve Miller
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            Starter is to the point where it will double in 24 hours.

            Is it ready to bake something with or give it more time?

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              wtg
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              https://littlespoonfarm.com/when-is-sourdough-starter-ready/

              You can perform a float test to check if your starter is ready. Drop a small spoonful of the starter into a glass of water. If it floats, it indicates that the starter is sufficiently active and ready for use.

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              When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                Steve Miller
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                Thanks!

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                  Just got back from a sourdough making class. It was fun, and the teacher, who runs the class in a big camping trailer, was excellent! We each came home with a blob of dough which we will be shaping and baking tomorrow.

                  We also brought home some 1847 Oregon Trail starter. Pretty cool! Let me know if you want some. She showed us how to dehydrate it so it would be easy to put some in the mail.

                  https://carlsfriends.net/

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                    Holy cow! This crazy 1847 starter, fed 1:4:4 grew so fast that it overflowed the jar in like 6 hours!

                    I’m throwing my starter away. Good bye Bubbles, hello John Dough!

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                      And if you send them a SASE they’ll send you some!

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                        Steve Miller
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                        He is risen!

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                          Jodi
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                          Excellent!!

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                            Steve Miller
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                            It’s good! (maybe a bit too chewy)

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                              It looks lovely!

                              Which part is chewy? The crust or the inside? As much as I love a warm slice of bread, if it's warm when you cut it, the inside may seem a bit damp.

                              Tell us more about how you baked it. Vessel, baking times...all the deets!

                              When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                                Yes, best to let it completely cool before cutting. The inside gets gummy if you don’t.

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                                  It sat for about an hour before I cut it. It was still warm but not all that warm.

                                  Crust is good, interior is chewy. Thinking about it though, no more chewy than Tartine, which is supposed to be the gold standard. Baked a second loaf today as well, we each brought home a lump of dough we made in class. Baked the first loaf to 203 degrees internal temp and the second to 210 as the higher temp is supposed to help. Haven’t tried the second loaf yet. In fact, we will never eat all of this bread!

                                  Baked in an enamel over cast iron Dutch oven (Crock Pot brand -we’re bougie like that) with parchment paper underneath to lift it. 450 degrees oven, preheated with Dutch oven in it for 45 minutes, covered for 25 minutes, uncovered after that until I hit the target internal temp - maybe another 30 minutes.

                                  Anyway, now I have two starters - Bubbles, the one I’ve been nursing from scratch, and John Dough, the Oregon Trail one. I think I’ll mess with both of them and see what I get.

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                                    It sat for about an hour before I cut it. It was still warm but not all that warm.

                                    Crust is good, interior is chewy. Thinking about it though, no more chewy than Tartine, which is supposed to be the gold standard. Baked a second loaf today as well, we each brought home a lump of dough we made in class. Baked the first loaf to 203 degrees internal temp and the second to 210 as the higher temp is supposed to help. Haven’t tried the second loaf yet. In fact, we will never eat all of this bread!

                                    Baked in an enamel over cast iron Dutch oven (Crock Pot brand -we’re bougie like that) with parchment paper underneath to lift it. 450 degrees oven, preheated with Dutch oven in it for 45 minutes, covered for 25 minutes, uncovered after that until I hit the target internal temp - maybe another 30 minutes.

                                    Anyway, now I have two starters - Bubbles, the one I’ve been nursing from scratch, and John Dough, the Oregon Trail one. I think I’ll mess with both of them and see what I get.

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                                    @Steve-Miller said in Greetings from SFO!:

                                    It sat for about an hour before I cut it. It was still warm but not all that warm.

                                    Even a little warm can make it gummy.

                                    In fact, we will never eat all of this bread!

                                    Bread crumbs. Tear up the leftovers and throw into a food processor. Store in freezer.

                                    Or, panzanella.

                                    https://www.seriouseats.com/classic-panzanella-salad-recipe

                                    When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                                      Steve Miller
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                                      I’ve never had Panzanella and I want to try it.

                                      Great idea!

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                                        Jodi
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                                        And once you get this down, try the cold start method. Way easier.

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                                          Steve Miller
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                                          I’ve seen videos that talk about that. I’ll try it soon!

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